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Dude
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 11/14/2007 :  02:45:54  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21777913/

Ok, no big deal. People want to call for an investigation, let them. Government wants to spend money on it, them maybe I have an issue unless it is done with some firm ground rules.

I also take issue with this:
“Especially after the attacks of 9/11, it is no longer satisfactory to ignore...

Why the need to bring in 9/11? In what way were UFOs involved? I thought we had enough evidence of 757s hitting the WTC.

It seems to me what these people are looking for is for the government to give out a different answer than all the government sponsored studies have in the past.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2007 :  10:17:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm with you on this. Evidence, after all this time, doesn't justify spending a penny of taxpayer money on this woo. Even if some pilots seem to think UFOs and 9/11 are somehow connected. Maybe one thing that should be investigated is the problem of false returns, and false interpretations, from radar systems, though.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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chaloobi
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Posted - 11/14/2007 :  10:35:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If 9/11 sold us Iraq, then 9/11 should be good for selling just about anything. Woo Hoo!

Regarding UFOs, I recall as a child I really really wanted to see one, meet and greet some aliens, maybe go away with them for a while, the whole thing. Then in my late teens and early 20s I started to reason that meeting true aliens would probably be very bad for me.

As a child I had this idea of a benevolent super-race wishing to make contact, to understand us, to guide and protect us from ourselves. But aliens probably wouldn't understand us at all, would likely regard us as unpredictable and dangerous, would have no idea how to communicate with us and likely would only make contact to take samples for their vivisection lab. And even if vivisection weren't a part of it, say they just wanted to observe our behavior, aliens would have no idea how to provide a safe and healthy captivity -- unless they'd built a body of knowledge over the bodies of hundreds of failed captures. And in that case the capture would likely be long term, for a zoo or something.

I reasoned that no way would I want to have a real close encounter. Such a thing could only result in suffering and death or madness. ET stay home!

-Chaloobi

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astropin
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USA
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Posted - 11/14/2007 :  11:32:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chaloobi

If 9/11 sold us Iraq, then 9/11 should be good for selling just about anything. Woo Hoo!

Regarding UFOs, I recall as a child I really really wanted to see one, meet and greet some aliens, maybe go away with them for a while, the whole thing. Then in my late teens and early 20s I started to reason that meeting true aliens would probably be very bad for me.

As a child I had this idea of a benevolent super-race wishing to make contact, to understand us, to guide and protect us from ourselves. But aliens probably wouldn't understand us at all, would likely regard us as unpredictable and dangerous, would have no idea how to communicate with us and likely would only make contact to take samples for their vivisection lab. And even if vivisection weren't a part of it, say they just wanted to observe our behavior, aliens would have no idea how to provide a safe and healthy captivity -- unless they'd built a body of knowledge over the bodies of hundreds of failed captures. And in that case the capture would likely be long term, for a zoo or something.

I reasoned that no way would I want to have a real close encounter. Such a thing could only result in suffering and death or madness. ET stay home!



Ummmm.......ok?

I to wanted to meet aliens and possibly go away with them when I was a kid. Howerver I assumed (and still assume) that any life form that advanced probably would be benevolent and probably would be able to communicate....and least to some degree.

However it did not take long for me to realize that the probability of such an occurrence is astronomically small.

P.S. I have seen UFO's......more than once. That being said UFO has always meant (and always means to me) an Unidentified Flying Object.....period. I don't associate UFO's with Aliens....why would I?

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

Infinitus est numerus stultorum
Edited by - astropin on 11/14/2007 11:33:34
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chaloobi
SFN Regular

1620 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2007 :  13:07:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why would you reason aliens would have anything resembling what we understand as compassion/benevolence at all? Or that they would recognize you as anything more than an unpredictably dangerous, barbaric, proto-intelligent savage?

-Chaloobi

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