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bngbuck
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USA
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Posted - 11/18/2007 :  11:56:04  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I ran into this highly educated, occasionally eloquent, nutcase several years ago and have corresponded with him on several occasions. He really can be challenging and don't write him off at first blush as simply crazy! He's crazy like a fox with rabies!

I don't think his agenda is religious, nor is he really concerned with promoting his anti-science position. He just wants to be the iconoclast to end all iconoclasts and most of all, notice me!

I did a search in the SFN archives and didn't find that anyone had ever really featured him in a topic thread, so I hope that he is something new to most of you! I am really interested in all comments, after you read some of his stuff!

Without further ado: meet Richard Milton

Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13476 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  12:48:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well Bill, I think it's pretty safe to say that we do have our detractor's.


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  15:55:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Richard Milton is, to put it midly, logic challenged.

He uses a few absurd examples of over-the-top skepticism and tries to draw a comparison to all skepticism.

His webpage is filled with nothing much but strawmen fallacies.

Pathetic, really. His article on "neo-dawrinism" is especially filled with fallacy and outright lies errors of fact. Thats as far as I got into his webpage.... but I don't expect the rest is much different.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular

Australia
800 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  16:37:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice. But apart from the intellectual exercise, is there much point in discussion things with someone like that, unless it's in public space where onlookers may learn something?

While I'm in slightly rant-ish mood this morning, what does "best seller" mean, really?

Richard Milton spent twenty years studying the geology of The British Isles before writing his best-seller Shattering the Myths of Darwinism.

Surely there can only be one true "Best seller". My bet is that this one wouldn't be that close to the top of the list.

This article on the front page says a lot:

Do You Really Need Your Brain? Scans have found more than 100 people with "No detectable brain" in their heads. (link)

Some of them even have their own websites.

John's just this guy, you know.
Edited by - JohnOAS on 11/18/2007 16:40:16
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  18:50:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JohnOAS

Surely there can only be one true "Best seller".
A chiropractor named John Pagano who wrote a diet book for psoriasis. On his web site, he proudly displayed "bestselling book" awards from Amazon.com and Barnes&Noble.com. It turned out that both booksellers gave these awards to people by category, and Pagano's book outsold all of the 23 other books in the category of "cutaneous diseases" at the time - few of which also dealt with psoriasis. Right now, that book is ranked #8,172. (But sadly, it's #1 in Books > Science > Medicine > Specialties > Dermatology, #1 in Books > Health, Mind & Body > Aging > Skin Ailments and #1 in Books > Science > Medicine > Diseases > Psoriasis.)

Also right now, Amazon says Milton's Darwin denial book is ranked #105,759 overall. And it doesn't hold #1 in any categories. His awards page doesn't have any bestseller graphics on it (but remind me, if SFN ever wins one of those Web award things, to send it to the bitbucket).

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2007 :  00:07:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The guy seems to be a true polymath among credophiles. If he don't have it, it ain't woo. Hard to tell if he's really a crackpot, or just a liar, but I suspect a crackpot, along with a big ego.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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