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Chippewa
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USA
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 Posted - 11/26/2007 : 14:39:22
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Thanks to Orwellingly Yurz, who brought this news item to my attention.
Chuck Norris, Texas Ranger to appear with Huckabee.
Yes, Norris will be at the Republican debate but I've heard that Giuliani will also have Joe E. Ross from the 1960s sitcom "Car 54 Where Are You?" who will say his famous "Ooo" "Ooo" just after every time Giuliani says "9/11" and Ron Paul will have a trained Chimpanzee who will point at Washington D.C. on a map of the USA every time Paul blows a whistle.
Norris said Huckabee is a "respected and fearless leader" and one who's "not afraid to stand up for a Creator and against secularist beliefs."
You know those secular beliefs - such as democratic government, equal rights, freedom of the press...
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Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.
"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.) |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2007 : 16:49:59 [Permalink]
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YO! Chippy Baby, where you been all my life? The Skeptics here are missing your ass, man.
Here's my fave Chuck Norris bull shit:
"Chuck Norris visited the Virgin Islands. Now they're just the Islands."
Orwellingly Yurz Sez: But Chucky, doesn't a married man who's a Christian, to boot, not do any lady other than his wife?
I bet Larry Craig's (R-ID) wife is the only lady he does, if and when he does a lady and not tap dancin'.
Gotta watch out for us secularistically inclined dudes, right Chippy?
OY!
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"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2007 : 18:34:54 [Permalink]
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Flair, known for his "Whooo!" yell, said Huckabee has the best vision for the country. "He likes to see people enjoy life," Flair said.
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That's some endorsement. |
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2007 : 20:53:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
Flair, known for his "Whooo!" yell, said Huckabee has the best vision for the country. "He likes to see people enjoy life," Flair said.
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That's some endorsement.
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Right. And nothing says "see people enjoy life" like "Fundamentalist Christian Republican" does. Nice going, "Nature Boy"... |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2007 : 21:30:08 [Permalink]
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YO: Alternet has a recent one page article titled, 'Our Favorite Nut Job.'
http://www.alternet.org/stories/68057/
Yip, Brother Huckabee. I notice what appear to be Nut Jobs supporting him as well, as stated above: Smack Down Rick and
Ranger Chuck, just a pair of your average American religious
freaks who act out their common way of life on the TV.
I have a politically connected friend (Dem) in Little Rock who sends
little tid bits on Mike, occasionally. I'll pass them onto this
site next time he sends me one. Comments of any kind would be
nice.
The looney Christianists are hoping for a dark horse with Rev.
Huckabee.
We need Mike as the Prez like we need Duck! Cheney! running the gov'ment (as Reagan called it) instead of pulling Bush's puppet
strings.
WOE IS OY! (Anybody seen egdalise anymore?)
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"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 07:48:34 [Permalink]
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Chuck said: | Norris said Huckabee is a "respected and fearless leader" and one who's "not afraid to stand up for a Creator and against secularist beliefs." |
What the fuck is he talking about??? You don't have to stand up against secularists. They're easy to get along with - you mind your business, they mind theirs, everyone gets to believe what they want, and the government doesn't make laws to force you to accept what others believe.
Now, religous fundies on the other hand, are very much interested in making sure their morality gets codified by the legislature. That's something to stand up to as a red-blooded, freedom-loving, apple pie, hotdog and Chevy drivin' American. Did Chuck get kicked in the head once too often or what?
What I can't figure out is how these guys don't know they are evil. Or maybe they dooooo....  |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2007 : 17:56:43 [Permalink]
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YO, Chaloobi:
You wrote: "What the fuck is he talking about??? You don't have to stand up against secularists. They're easy to get along with - you mind your business, they mind theirs, everyone gets to believe what they want, and the government doesn't make laws to force you to accept what others believe."
Orwellingly Yurz Sez: A kernel of wisdom we've just experienced
with Chaloobi's last phrase above. Succinct for sure, and we certainly all know what the fuck Chaloobi's talking about. Another way to say it would be: And only a totalitarian government makes laws to force you to accept what others believe. But I think Chaloobi's is pretty damn good.
It would be nice if Chaloobi could repeat his phrase into the faces of people like the reverential disaster capitalist, Pat Robertson.
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"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
1620 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2007 : 07:01:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Orwellingly Yurz
YO, Chaloobi:
You wrote: "What the fuck is he talking about??? You don't have to stand up against secularists. They're easy to get along with - you mind your business, they mind theirs, everyone gets to believe what they want, and the government doesn't make laws to force you to accept what others believe."
Orwellingly Yurz Sez: A kernel of wisdom we've just experienced
with Chaloobi's last phrase above. Succinct for sure, and we certainly all know what the fuck Chaloobi's talking about. Another way to say it would be: And only a totalitarian government makes laws to force you to accept what others believe. But I think Chaloobi's is pretty damn good.
It would be nice if Chaloobi could repeat his phrase into the faces of people like the reverential disaster capitalist, Pat Robertson.
OY !
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Pat doesn't care. He's into his power and influence and simple things like the ideal of personal freedom or even christian morality for that matter just get in the way.
Here's a thought: if I advocate a law against religion being used as a basis of law, am I pushing to legislate my own beliefs? Am I technically doing what they are doing or even doing what they're accusing 'secularists' of doing? |
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Mycroft
Skeptic Friend
USA
427 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:58:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Chippewa
Norris said Huckabee is a "respected and fearless leader" and one who's "not afraid to stand up for a Creator and against secularist beliefs."
You know those secular beliefs - such as democratic government, equal rights, freedom of the press...
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I'm gonna bet that particular juxtaposition of ideas is not one that Chuck Norris would agree with. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/29/2007 : 23:41:19 [Permalink]
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I can kind of understand, though not excuse, good and even mediocre actors misusing their communication skills in political causes for which they are otherwise unequipped. But why the f- would anyone listen to the political pronouncements of the Worst Actor Ever?
Norris somehow parlayed martial arts skills into an acting career despite his horrible lack of acting ability. (I loathed Norris for his wooden acting for years, long before I knew he was pretty much a fascist.) Now Norris is parlaying his acting into politics?
The only people he could influence would have to be even bigger boneheads than Chuckie is. Unfortunately, there are millions of 'em.
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Mycroft
Skeptic Friend
USA
427 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2007 : 13:36:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I can kind of understand, though not excuse, good and even mediocre actors misusing their communication skills in political causes for which they are otherwise unequipped. But why the f- would anyone listen to the political pronouncements of the Worst Actor Ever?
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Since everyone has the freedom to express their opinions, actors don't need you to understand or excuse them when they express theirs.
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Norris somehow parlayed martial arts skills into an acting career despite his horrible lack of acting ability. (I loathed Norris for his wooden acting for years, long before I knew he was pretty much a fascist.) Now Norris is parlaying his acting into politics?
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The only thing I know about his views are what I just read on Wikipedia, which only says that he's a political conservative.
In your opinion, is that the same as being a fascist? Or do you have information that isn't on Wikipedia?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 12/01/2007 : 14:43:58 [Permalink]
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Mycroft intoned: | Since everyone has the freedom to express their opinions, actors don't need you to understand or excuse them when they express theirs. |
Yup. I never suggested Chuck not be allowed to talk politics, just that it's remarkable anyone would listen. I do think he should be banned for life from acting.The only thing I know about his views are what I just read on Wikipedia, which only says that he's a political conservative.
In your opinion, is that the same as being a fascist? Or do you have information that isn't on Wikipedia? |
No, Chuck's not quite formally a Fascist, which is why I qualified what I wrote with "pretty much." After all, there were some anticlerical elements in classical fascism, and the theocratic movement which Norris represents might be better compared to the Wahabi Sunni faith than to fascism. That's all "pretty much fascist" in my book, though, being authoritarian movements. Norris has broadcast through TBN, putting him with the same crowd of far-right, faith-healing, "prosperity gospel" thieves that have run (and looted) ORU.
That Chuck Norris supports the presidential candidacy of Mike Huckabee is itself a "pretty much fascist" indicator itself. Chuck's candidate Huckabee is an anti-gay-rights, Creationist, Iraq war enthusiast who also supports the horrors of Guantanamo. Since these are all policies of the present President, it is easy not to see how very extreme they are, but IMO opinion, they are all very close to being fascistic policies.
I don't consider that stuff to be "conservative" policies any more than I consider the policies of Josef Stalin to be "liberal" policies. I think Chuck and his crowd do resemble the Fascists more than they resemble traditional conservatives.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Mycroft
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 22:26:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
No, Chuck's not quite formally a Fascist...
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Oh, c'mon, let's get some perspective here! Chuck Norris isn't a fascist at all. He's just a B movie actor who happens to hold some opinions you disagree with.
I don't agree with his politics or his religion, but I don't see any need to demonize him beyond stating my disagreement. Aren't you even the slightest bit embarrassed by being such a polemic that you do? |
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Huckabee's Anti Secular TV Star Endorsement
