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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  19:28:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Well, TIG has not responded to my last post. I doubt that he will. But perhaps he did respond in a way. While I was there, before I posted the offending post, I checked out the links section as well as other areas of his site. We were not there but he has a place to suggest links, like many sites do. Naturally, I suggested a link to us 'cause why not? Those links must be approved. Today I got an email with news that our link had been approved. You can find it at:

http://www.infidelguy.com/link-3.html

Since I made the suggestion that we put this nonsense behind us in my last post over there, that is what I plan to do, unless anything changes.


Well, I'm happy with the outcome.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13470 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  19:45:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by @tomic

I just don't understand why anyone would think Kil was spamming.

1. He doesn't sell anything
2. There wasn't anything commercial about the post.

Believe me, I know how bad the problem of forum spamming is, but Kil's post was so far from even resembling spam that I am flabbergasted it could have been mistaken as one. So was Kil, hence the existence of this topic. Good moderation would have been to remove the link and perhaps PM the offending member, but that's just me.

@

I didn't include a link. I didn't ask anyone to check us out either. The signature link is allowable. I always put that in as a part of my signature if it is allowable. And right, on this site we wouldn't have regarded the kind of post I wrote as spam. And at every other site I have posted at with a similar OP, my post was not taken as spam and deleted. But oh well...

The main issue for me was not that my OP was deleted. It was how I was treated after it was deleted.

And while I don't feel that the issue has been perfectly resolved, I am willing to accept that it has been resolved, at least tentatively...

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26014 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  20:03:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@tomic, the term "spam" has evolved and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with commercialism. "Forum spam" (in particular) generally refers to either content-free posts which "advertise" some other forum (what Kil was allegedly guilty of), or to one post being copied-and-pasted to multiple forums.

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the_ignored
SFN Addict

2558 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  20:04:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The irony, according to Abbie Smith, Reggie put her interview up for free. Not that I'm complaining, but still.



And now, a STUPID moment with the_ignored
(I had a few things to say, but with my lousy connection, I couldn't get in; by the time I did just now, I've forgotten what I was going to say)

Oh yeah. There's no way that one can compare Reg with DaveScot. Check out the thread on After The Bar Closes

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
Edited by - the_ignored on 02/14/2008 20:15:21
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@tomic
Administrator

USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  20:16:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

@tomic, the term "spam" has evolved and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with commercialism. "Forum spam" (in particular) generally refers to either content-free posts which "advertise" some other forum (what Kil was allegedly guilty of), or to one post being copied-and-pasted to multiple forums.

Fair enough. I didn't see Kil's original post but still think it's a shame. I'd rather just drop it and move on since I don't see what good can come over dwelling on this.

@

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2008 :  21:02:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I meant to do this last night.

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  22:02:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

The irony, according to Abbie Smith, Reggie put her interview up for free. Not that I'm complaining, but still.



And now, a STUPID moment with the_ignored
(I had a few things to say, but with my lousy connection, I couldn't get in; by the time I did just now, I've forgotten what I was going to say)

Oh yeah. There's no way that one can compare Reg with DaveScot. Check out the thread on After The Bar Closes
Okay, I take that tentative, qualified comparison back.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  22:05:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

The irony, according to Abbie Smith, Reggie put her interview up for free. Not that I'm complaining, but still.



And now, a STUPID moment with the_ignored
(I had a few things to say, but with my lousy connection, I couldn't get in; by the time I did just now, I've forgotten what I was going to say)

Oh yeah. There's no way that one can compare Reg with DaveScot. Check out the thread on After The Bar Closes
Okay, I take that tentative, qualified comparison back. Sorry, Reggie!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13470 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  10:21:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check this out

Could it be that the TIG's experience with me has softened his approach when dealing with other skeptics mention of their sites in their OP?

Seems to me that this post would have been deleted just a few weeks ago.

And, of course, no matter how he read it, I didn't spam his site for members.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  10:22:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
broken link.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13470 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  10:26:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

broken link.


Fixed.

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marfknox
SFN Die Hard

USA
3739 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  12:46:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For what it is worth, I've always associated spamming with random advertising. Mentioning that one runs a Skeptic forum on another forum for freethinkers is obviously not random. I don't see why it would be taboo at all for people to promote themselves or their projects on forums which are relevant to what they do. How else are people without much funding supposed to get the word out and get off the ground?

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13470 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  13:36:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by marfknox

For what it is worth, I've always associated spamming with random advertising. Mentioning that one runs a Skeptic forum on another forum for freethinkers is obviously not random. I don't see why it would be taboo at all for people to promote themselves or their projects on forums which are relevant to what they do. How else are people without much funding supposed to get the word out and get off the ground?
Yeah. It seems kind of silly to me not welcome, as part of our larger community, those who seek to promote their site if it has to do with freethinking at another freethought site. But hey, Finley can run his site anyway he wants to.

Actually, he doesn't say he is completely against it. Just don't do it in an OP, and don't do it if you're not a regular member (post count I assume) at his site.

We pretty much allow people to introduce themselves by promoting their site here, so long as they are not selling something that has nothing to do with freethinking and skepticism. We even allow them to continue to link back to their sites when they have new content, even if they don't participate on our forums much beyond doing that.

And while I really don't much care how Finley runs things at his site, I am glad to see that he may have softened his stance a bit with regard to some kinds of introductions.











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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  14:30:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps what Finely needs is a "Skeptic Resources" section, specifically meant for this.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13470 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  14:38:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky

Perhaps what Finely needs is a "Skeptic Resources" section, specifically meant for this.
Well, he does have a link section. We are the only site there under skepticism...

It could be a new thing over there.

http://www.infidelguy.com/link-3.html

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