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filthy
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Posted - 03/29/2008 :  04:11:32  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Confronted by Stahl with the fact some prominent people, including the nation's vice president, are not convinced that global warming is man-made, Gore responds: "You're talking about Dick Cheney. I think that those people are in such a tiny, tiny minority now with their point of view, they're almost like the ones who still believe that the moon landing was staged in a movie lot in Arizona and those who believe the world is flat, says Gore. "That demeans them a little bit, but it's not that far off," he tells Stahl.
What?! Is he saying that the moon landing wasn't filmed in Arizona? Where was it filmed, then -- certainly not the moon! Do you any idea how far away that thing is?! Not even my Shovelhead Harley could make that trip without refueling, and guess what, people: no gas stations!

But no matter, the moon landing conspiracy hoo-hah no longer has relevance except to those who live in an intellectual crack pipe; it's a rise in the earth's mean temperature exacerbated by our collective exhaust that matters today. Idiots such as the swine Cheney, who won't accept the science until it can be shown that remedial efforts won't slow the flow of corporate cash nor inconvenience anyone important, that are the real hazard. They'd destroy us all for a dollar.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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chaloobi
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  08:11:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The moon's not far away at all; not more than a hundred miles up at most. Where do you think Jack went on his beanstalk?

Also: You shouldn't think of climate warming in such negative terms. This is really all about ending this blasted Ice Age the Earth's been stuck in for the last few million years or so. Roll with it man, the light at the end of the tunnel is golden and warm.

-Chaloobi

Edited by - chaloobi on 03/31/2008 08:12:59
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  09:56:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chaloobi

Also: You shouldn't think of climate warming in such negative terms. This is really all about ending this blasted Ice Age the Earth's been stuck in for the last few million years or so. Roll with it man, the light at the end of the tunnel is golden and warm.


Don't forget starving and thirsty.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  10:22:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

it's a rise in the earth's mean temperature exacerbated by our collective exhaust that matters today.







Naturally Al made his comment from the comfort of his private jet while burning the wicks for his globe trotting antics. I am sure, however, that he will brush off his critics by cutting a check to his own company for more "carbon credits". After all when he says "people" are stuck in their old habits he is talking about "other" people. When I see the privet jet and mansion go up for sale, or better yet, put out of commission for the massive CO2 producers that they are, then I might start to think that Al really believes his own prophesy... Look at me, I have completely refit my house with the new CFL's and sold my SUV! And I don't even buy into this whole doomsday prophesy. What has Al done, besides cut in line at the Old Country Buffet when they brought out fresh BBQ ribs?

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

Edited by - Bill scott on 03/31/2008 10:25:59
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  11:12:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes Bill, we all know the fact that Al Gore rides planes nullifies all valid scientific data. What do you think we are? Darwinists?!?!

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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filthy
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  11:20:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
C'mon Bill, ad hom is for children, idiots, and maybe just for fun now & then. Attack the science that Gore represents instead. I mean, do you really believe that the world is flat (Pssst, I agree on the moon-landing folderol but don't tell anybody, ok)?





"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  11:55:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Yes Bill, we all know the fact that Al Gore rides planes nullifies all valid scientific data. What do you think we are? Darwinists?!?!


The piece was not on any of the valid scientific data but was rather on how Al is going to pi$$ away $300 million to ask everyone else to do that which he has/will not.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Chippewa
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  11:57:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott
Naturally Al made his comment from the comfort of his private jet while burning the wicks for his globe trotting antics. I am sure, however, that he will brush off his critics by cutting a check to his own company for more "carbon credits". After all... blah blah blah blah... (assumption:)Bill pauses to humbly remove his hat and gaze with deep admiration at the gigantic neon lit full-color portrait hanging in his office of George W. Bush on a white horse in knight's armor,)...blah blah blah...Al Gore...blah blah...bad...blah blah...


This straw "critique" - follows a simplistic formula:

Al Gore has more money than Bill scott, therefore Global Warming is wrong.

Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.

"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.)
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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  11:58:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

C'mon Bill, ad hom is for children, idiots, and maybe just for fun now & then. Attack the science that Gore represents instead. I mean, do you really believe that the world is flat (Pssst, I agree on the moon-landing folderol but don't tell anybody, ok)?








C'mon Bill, ad hom is for children, idiots,



Don't forget dude and HH.






and maybe just for fun now & then.



But Al makes himself such an easy target. His mansion, his private jet travels, his VIP status at In-and-Out Burger, all while he preaches personal sacrifice to the faithful and the deniers.










Attack the science that Gore represents instead.


Why? It will be brushed aside under the new coined "one size fits all" banner of climate "change."








I mean, do you really believe that the world is flat


No. But this pepsi from lunch sure is




(Pssst, I agree on the moon-landing folderol but don't tell anybody, ok)?


ok



"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  12:21:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Chippewa

Originally posted by Bill scott
Naturally Al made his comment from the comfort of his private jet while burning the wicks for his globe trotting antics. I am sure, however, that he will brush off his critics by cutting a check to his own company for more "carbon credits". After all... blah blah blah blah... (assumption:)Bill pauses to humbly remove his hat and gaze with deep admiration at the gigantic neon lit full-color portrait hanging in his office of George W. Bush on a white horse in knight's armor,)...blah blah blah...Al Gore...blah blah...bad...blah blah...


This straw "critique" - follows a simplistic formula:

Al Gore has more money than Bill scott, therefore Global Warming is wrong.



1. Your assuming Al Gore has more money then Bill $cott.

2. You have completely misunderstood the formula which is that Al's message might be taken a little more serious by the faithful and the skeptics alike if he actually practiced what he preached, even if just a little bit.

Swaggart lost his credibility when he preached repentance but then was busted in a prostitution ring.

George H.W. Bush lost his credibility when told us to read his lips on the no new taxes thing.

William J. Clinton lost his credibility when shook his fingers at us and said that he never had contact with that woman, Ms. Lewenski.

Do you really think Al can preach personal sacrifice blah, blah, blah and CO2 output blah, blah, blah to the faithful and then turn around and jump on his private jet to fly to his 10,000sq/ft mansion, that he lives at 2 weeks out of the year yet keeps climate controlled, without losing credibility with the faithful, let alone the skeptics? Not to even mention his aggressive behavior at the Golden Corral Saturday night buffet.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  12:23:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

Why? It will be brushed aside under the new coined "one size fits all" banner of climate "change."
Nothing has been brushed aside in the past, Bill, so from what evidence does this prediction of yours arise?

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Dude
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  12:52:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
billscott said:
Don't forget dude and HH.

Poor billy... I have never, not once, in my history on these forums engaged in argumentum ad hominem.

Sure, I may call you a retard, but I have never said you are wrong (and yes, you are wrong) because you are retarded.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  13:14:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

billscott said:
Don't forget dude and HH.

Poor billy... I have never, not once, in my history on these forums engaged in argumentum ad hominem.

Sure, I may call you a retard, but I have never said you are wrong (and yes, you are wrong) because you are retarded.





Poor billy... I have never, not once, in my history on these forums engaged in argumentum ad hominem.


Your simply a living legend. It's that simple.


Sure, I may call you a retard,


It appears to make you feel good about yourself so I am glad to have helped, since you obviously have unresolved issues going on outside of this forum.



but I have never said you are wrong (and yes, you are wrong) because you are retarded.


What a model citizen you are. I am sure nobody calls you a dumbass.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

Edited by - Bill scott on 03/31/2008 13:22:24
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  13:38:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

Do you really think Al can preach personal sacrifice blah, blah, blah and CO2 output blah, blah, blah to the faithful and then turn around and jump on his private jet to fly to his 10,000sq/ft mansion, that he lives at 2 weeks out of the year yet keeps climate controlled, without losing credibility with the faithful, let alone the skeptics?
If he's buying effective carbon credits for all that, then there is no hypocrisy.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Bill scott
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  15:02:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Bill scott

Do you really think Al can preach personal sacrifice blah, blah, blah and CO2 output blah, blah, blah to the faithful and then turn around and jump on his private jet to fly to his 10,000sq/ft mansion, that he lives at 2 weeks out of the year yet keeps climate controlled, without losing credibility with the faithful, let alone the skeptics?
If he's buying effective carbon credits for all that, then there is no hypocrisy.


Sure, Dave. Swagart never used "church" funds for his party, so, therefore, no hyprocrisy.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  15:09:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Bill scott

Do you really think Al can preach personal sacrifice blah, blah, blah and CO2 output blah, blah, blah to the faithful and then turn around and jump on his private jet to fly to his 10,000sq/ft mansion, that he lives at 2 weeks out of the year yet keeps climate controlled, without losing credibility with the faithful, let alone the skeptics?
If he's buying effective carbon credits for all that, then there is no hypocrisy.


Sure, Dave. Swagart never used "church" funds for his party, so, therefore, no hyprocrisy.
You don't have the first clue how carbon offsetting works, do you, bill?


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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