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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 06/05/2002 : 16:53:04 [Permalink]
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"Hmmm? Am I misreading this or is he actually saying that he knows that the ontological argument is wrong and proposes that someone rework it to make it a more convincing lie?"
I'll be damned if I can figure it out. I couldn't even get through the article. I guess my mind boggles too easily on balderdash.
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Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it.... Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.
-- Rev. Jimmy Swaggart (source unknown)
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2002 : 17:03:24 [Permalink]
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Like it? I had a thiest ask me to resolve all 20 of the damned things.
After a few buttons of peyote, a half dozen tabs of acid, and a pint of vodka, I understood the logic behind them:
God exists therefore God exists therefore God exists therefore God exists therefore God exists therefore God exists therefore God exists.
I then typed this following rebuttel:
God is cheese!
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2002 : 17:55:32 [Permalink]
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Like it?
I know I had another thread that was about this ... but...surely when every non-theist they wave this at says that it is BS they must realize it isn't changing anyones mind. When every man-jack of us takes each of the twenty to pieces they have to eventually know that they don't work...and, more importantly, why.
Cheese huh? I'm lactose intolerant.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2002 : 18:33:55 [Permalink]
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"Cheese huh? I'm lactose intolerant."
Sorry to hear that. You're missing so many wonderful tastes. I like limburger on a saltine while eating a raw Bermuda onion like an apple.
There is no better way to get rid of unwanted guests, dunno why.
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Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it.... Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.
-- Rev. Jimmy Swaggart (source unknown)
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/06/2002 : 07:21:07 [Permalink]
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Not all the arguments are equally demonstrative. One (Pascal's Wager) is not an argument for God at all, but an argument for faith in God as a "wager." Another (the ontological argument) we regard as fundamentally flawed; yet we include it because it is very famous and influential, and may yet be saved by new formulations of it.
Hmmm? Am I misreading this or is he actually saying that he knows that the ontological argument is wrong and proposes that someone rework it to make it a more convincing lie?
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My business is to teach my aspirations to conform themselves to fact, not to try and make facts harmonize with my aspirations. ---Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860
Now that is grand, and I think you are reading it correctly. Also he is including it because it is <b>famous and very influential</b>. In other words it might be false, but it might trick some gullible people out there or its ok to lie for Jesus.
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