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Plyss
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- A devil-worshipping sailor in the Royal Navy has become the first registered Satanist in the British Armed Forces.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/24/uk.devilworship/index.html
I wonder what Verlch thinks of this..
PS. Sorry about the pun, i couldn't resist.
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Miss Tick sniffed. 'You could say this piece of advice is pricesless', she said. 'Are you listening?'
'Yes' said Tiffany.
'Good now...If you trust in yourself.."
'Yes..?'
'..and believe in your dreams...'
'yes?'
'...and follow your star..' Miss Tick went on.
'Yes?'
'You'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy. Goodbye.' |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 11:03:39 [Permalink]
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| Well hes got as much evidence as the next guy...none. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 19:04:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Well hes got as much evidence as the next guy...none.
Actually, after reading the article, I'd say he does have more. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
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verlch
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 19:26:52 [Permalink]
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| Well free will at its best! And he is excersing it just as God willed him to do. God will win in the end rest assured, just where do you gentlemen plant your flag? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 20:17:07 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Well free will at its best! And he is excersing it just as God willed him to do. God will win in the end rest assured, just where do you gentlemen plant your flag?
Free will indeed, and I will fight to the death to see that he has it, although it is nonsense to me. That's democracy. I'd do the same for you.
I have no flag to plant, nor want one.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 21:05:51 [Permalink]
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Well, since there is zero evidence to support either a christian god or devil, the point is moot.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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verlch
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Posted - 11/10/2004 : 19:45:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
Well, since there is zero evidence to support either a christian god or devil, the point is moot.
yOU can see God's design in the works! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 11/10/2004 : 20:22:29 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Well, since there is zero evidence to support either a christian god or devil, the point is moot.
yOU can see God's design in the works!
What design?
Go back to the thread "Be Afraid..." and re-read the whole thread, and you'll se there is no design. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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satans_mom
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 11/10/2004 : 23:35:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Plyss
LONDON, England (CNN) -- A devil-worshipping sailor in the Royal Navy has become the first registered Satanist in the British Armed Forces.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/24/uk.devilworship/index.html
I wonder what Verlch thinks of this..
PS. Sorry about the pun, i couldn't resist.
Well, to be technical, a Satanist is not a devil-worshipper, according to the Satanic Bible. In fact, a Satanist considers himself to be the "ultimate" and most choose to worship themselves. Perhaps, in my theory, where the named derived was the definition of an antichrist coincides with a definition of a Satanist, so perhaps Anton Levey made a connection here? In reality, Satanists are "Nothingists" and the "black matter" of space is referred to as "Satan" yet holds no significant meaning other than what is proven by science. Most Satanists are "skeptic" in concept, yet the Satanists I have spoken with have all proven to be more than ignorant of most subjects and for being "skeptical" are still nauseatingly metaphysical. These are, of course, the Satanists I have conversed with, so I do not deem that all Satanists are idiots, but I can't help but get a general impression...
www.the600club.com I am banned from here, because I wouldn't take their silly rituals seriously. Search for my name if you want to read a few amusing posts. The one that did it is entitled, "This may be the last straw." It was.
Just a bit of religious education. Or "spiritual" education. Or, "People who claim to be non-religious and non-spiritual but are in fact so" education. I mean, according to those I have actually had lengthy conversations with... |
Yo mama's so fat, she's on both sides of the family.
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Ricky
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verlch
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Posted - 11/15/2004 : 13:25:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
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"Satanism is wrong. Obviously the private beliefs of individuals anywhere including the armed forces are their own affair but I hope it doesn't spread," she said.
Just replace "Satanism" with "Christianity", or to be more general, "Religion"
Satan told Eve in the garden that If she at the fruit she would be as God, knowing both good and evil. Basically he is jealous of any worship directed at God and wants worship directed at himself. God says in His word that Satan tried to make his throne above the stars of God. Satan is the creation, not the creator and thus not to be worshiped. One of Gods commandments is that we have no other false gods before him and that we don't worship anything in the sea!
2nd Commandment; Verses 4-6: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 07:20:54 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Ricky
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"Satanism is wrong. Obviously the private beliefs of individuals anywhere including the armed forces are their own affair but I hope it doesn't spread," she said.
Just replace "Satanism" with "Christianity", or to be more general, "Religion"
Satan told Eve in the garden that If she at the fruit she would be as God, knowing both good and evil. Basically he is jealous of any worship directed at God and wants worship directed at himself. God says in His word that Satan tried to make his throne above the stars of God. Satan is the creation, not the creator and thus not to be worshiped. One of Gods commandments is that we have no other false gods before him and that we don't worship anything in the sea!
And since Satanism is none of these things, your point is.........what?
Satanism is the worship of the power within ourselves. It has co-opted several symbols of other religions. They believe in the amassment of personal psychic power.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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verlch
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 13:49:58 [Permalink]
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If you want to believe in those old pagan religions disguised as something new under the sun, revealed as if they are somthing new to be believed in. Than be my guest. The bible tells you how to live as the "Witness" to all nations as to the will of God.
You choose to wander after false teachings and doctrines of devils, paganism, satanism, witchcraft, channeling and new age wonders. Nobody is stopping you. Remember it is not the will of your Maker that you so consort with demons, or have fellowship with them. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 15:22:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
If you want to believe in those old pagan religions disguised as something new under the sun, revealed as if they are somthing new to be believed in. Than be my guest. The bible tells you how to live as the "Witness" to all nations as to the will of God.
You choose to wander after false teachings and doctrines of devils, paganism, satanism, witchcraft, channeling and new age wonders. Nobody is stopping you. Remember it is not the will of your Maker that you so consort with demons, or have fellowship with them.
More misstatements and outright unBiblical doctorine from the sewage hole that is verlch. Really, your pained and pathetic attempts to change the subject concerning a book heavily edited through the years and attendant changes in church dogma (think Niocene counsel, O deluded one) is somehow better than a scientific text due to age alone?
And since you have no refuting evidence to support your point, you resort to intimating that we are all damned. Typical.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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