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verlch
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  18:20:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

My quoter doesn't work on here Einstein....


Anyways on History channel tommorrow is a show about how the makers of the obelisk in Egypt, that same group made our government and constitution. Dec 1 at 8 pm Pacific time...should be good!!!


Uh, America's constitution was made by Egyptians workers? That's new.



Ok is the work in the kitchen all done there Siberia...The men that made the constitution are the same group, masons, that made the obeliskis in Egypt and on the History at 8 it is on...

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  18:37:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
Clinton was still a Rhodes Scholar ever heard the Clintons and Hitlaries favorite thing to talk about, the Global Village. She even wrote a book about the global village. Clinton is a globalist and a member of some order.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  18:40:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Hehehe. verlch thinks there were Freemasons in ancient Egypt.

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filthy
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  18:43:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
obeliskis

These were Polish Masons?

Correct me if I'm wrong, or have misread the statment, but the Order of Freemasons did not exist in ancient Egypt. They did not build the obelisks. Egyptians built them. Their superb engineering is still admired today.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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filthy
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  18:50:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

Clinton was still a Rhodes Scholar ever heard the Clintons and Hitlaries favorite thing to talk about, the Global Village. She even wrote a book about the global village. Clinton is a globalist and a member of some order.

William Clinton is not a Mason nor is Hillary a member of Eastern Star, the woman's affilate of the Freemasons.

The 'global village' statements are a political metaphore for our shrinking world. Modern communication and transportation make us all next-door neighbors.

Damn verlch, get back on your meds!


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Dave W.
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USA
25973 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  19:14:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The History Channel:
8-9pm: Modern Marvels
Washington Monument.
The U.S. capital boasts many memorials, but none with a more bizarre history than the obelisk erected to America's first president. Over 55 stories high and weighing over 90,000 tons, the Washington Monument stands stalwart in the city's center. From concept to completion, it took 100 years--years filled with mystery, ceremony, conflict, government action, and inaction. Proposed in the late 1700s by a group of prominent citizens and finished in the late 1800s by the Army Corps of Engineers, the exterior is mainly Maryland white marble, while the interior is made of granite, iron...and a few surprises. How did it come together and why did it take so long? Historians tell stories of stalling bureaucracy, secret societies, and triumphant engineering. Stark and daunting on the outside, we let viewers know what's inside.
Yeah, please let us know how they tie it all together with the Egyptians, verlch. Other than the similarity of shape, which is meaningless.

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verlch
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  22:21:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
I thought you knew everything Dave! Yes the Masons say it was an ancient secret order that worked on King Solomons temple! Not only that but a masons destrest comment to yell is 'Tubal Cain'. You rememeber Tubal Cain in the bible.


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/tubalcain.html

The free masons will not deny Tubal Cain. Two balls and a kane.

http://home.ptd.net/~magog/mystery.htm

We all know Dave will believe in the fairy 'Great Ape', but try and tell him about the freemasons and you have an up hill battle.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  23:10:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
verlch wrote:
quote:
Yes the Masons say...
Sorry, verlch, but it is your contention that the Freemasons are a Satanic group, which means anything they say may be a lie. So unless you've got evidence outside of what they say, you're batting zero-for-whatever.

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verlch
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  23:51:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
I quote anti-mason books and websites, so I don't know what else you need Dave dub'iahhh...

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  03:10:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

I quote anti-mason books and websites, so I don't know what else you need Dave dub'iahhh...

Thus far, I've yet to see you quote anything but the most paranoid bullshit available. However, it pleases me to see you nesting comfortably amongst those familiar to you -- birds of a feather, neh?

So, have you opened this link yet?

http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm

Of course not and you won't. It might upset the dark and befuddled, little world you live in. It might put fact and perspective into your mind and we can't have that, now can we?

Do you believe in witchcraft and wizardy, O verlch? Are there ogers and fairies and balrogs and orcs and elves and all that jazz roaming your version of the world? Do you cast the sign against the Evil Eye each day before you leave your house? Are you careful not to step on the cracks in the sidewalk?

quote:
I thought you knew everything Dave! Yes the Masons say it was an ancient secret order that worked on King Solomons temple! Not only that but a masons destrest comment to yell is 'Tubal Cain'. You rememeber Tubal Cain in the bible.


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/tubalcain.html

The free masons will not deny Tubal Cain. Two balls and a kane.

http://home.ptd.net/~magog/mystery.htm

We all know Dave will believe in the fairy 'Great Ape', but try and tell him about the freemasons and you have an up hill battle.

You have an uphill battle O verlch, because neither Dave nor I, nor most others here suffer fools gladly.





"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 12/02/2004 03:13:22
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  06:30:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

My quoter doesn't work on here Einstein....


Anyways on History channel tommorrow is a show about how the makers of the obelisk in Egypt, that same group made our government and constitution. Dec 1 at 8 pm Pacific time...should be good!!!


Uh, America's constitution was made by Egyptians workers? That's new.



Ok is the work in the kitchen all done there Siberia...The men that made the constitution are the same group, masons, that made the obeliskis in Egypt and on the History at 8 it is on...


Oh, right, those darned masons you fear so much (that, so obviously, were in Egypt...). And yeah, the kitchen's work is all done, thank you.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
Edited by - Siberia on 12/02/2004 06:34:59
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  07:37:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

I thought you knew everything Dave! Yes the Masons say it was an ancient secret order that worked on King Solomons temple! Not only that but a masons destrest comment to yell is 'Tubal Cain'. You rememeber Tubal Cain in the bible.
But verlch, we've had this discussion already. It's impossible to say that Tubal Cain (a better transliteration of the Hebrew is Qayin, BTW) founded Masonry because he lived before the flood. Presumably, his evil owl-worshipping, phallus-obsessed cult died along with everyone else. Unless, of course, you want to posit that Noah or one of his family was a Mason. And if that's the case, then your god has to be the biggest idiot ever since he was stupid enough to think that Noah and his family were actually righteous and worthy of saving...
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  08:16:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I like owls. On several occasions, I've set up nesting boxes for them and watched pairs of barnys raise their families. I plan To do it again when I move away from here.

Once I rehabilitated a tiny screech owl that had been hit by a car. There is no bird more appealing.

A few years ago I had my first 'encounter' with an owl (dismissing those I've seen in the zoo). I was walking across a field at night when one flew over me. The great thing was it's flight was almost completely silent. If I would have had my eyes closed or if the night would have been clouded I might not have noticed it passing. It's one of those moments when I was struck with a deep feeling of awe and admiration for nature's achievements.

Heck, watching an owl fly right over you beats sacrificing first borns and hearing there screams of pain any day. Although this might be because I sacrifice first borns at least once every two weeks (and a virgin every week of course) while having an owl fly over you is such a very rare event.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Edited by - tomk80 on 12/02/2004 08:19:24
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  08:50:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
I tried to sneak up on an owl a few years ago.

My parents own a summer cottage outside of Stockholm and this summer night i noticed how an owl (probably a Tawny Owl ,Strix aculo,) landed on the roof with its tail feathers sticking out over the porch.

I tried to get outdoors without making a sound but of course the owl heard the faint noise from the door and the feathers disappeared.
I continued to sneak toward the part of the roof however and all of a sudden the owl peeked down from the roof and saw my face less than a meter away.

The owl did not share my enthusiasm of the encounter.

[Edit : spelling]
Edited by - Starman on 12/02/2004 08:58:00
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  09:01:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Isn't it a beautiful thing?

The only unpleasant experience I've ever had with an owl was when I was called to remove a great horned owl that had recently killed a skunk from someone's gerage -- I have no idea how it came to be in there. The stench was horrific! Also, as this is a very powerful bird, my hands got gouged up even through the welder's gloves I was wearing. There was no way this foul beast was going into my truck, not even in the bed!

I carried it outside and tried to toss it up, but it hung on and took the opportunity to give me a healthy bite above the cuff of my right glove. I finally shook it loose and it fell to the ground, still full of fight. I backed off and at last it shook out it's feathers and took wing.

I took a record number of showers, but still smelled a bit skunky for several days. I threw the gloves out.

But that bad apple has come nowhere near to spoiling the owl barrel for me.

As a side note, people who raise poultry usually hate horned owls. They will attack and kill a duck or chicken and eat nothing but the head.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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