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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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 Posted - 12/08/2004 : 07:11:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
First of all I want everyone to brace themselves before reading this....
Take a deep breath....
OK. Verlich is actually making some sort of sense when he says:
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I'm a Jew dude, well my son is for sure. I'm not sure how much Jewish blood runs through me, but I'm sure its atleast half!
The child of a gentile father and a Jewish mother is Jewish. So if Verlich's son is from a Jewish mother then his son is Jewish.
Right, but what about the "I'm a Jew dude" part, or "I'm not sure how much Jewish blood runs through me..." part? I mean, in theory anyone could have some Jewish blood if you go back long enough. (Perhaps your great (x30) grandmother was a concubine of Solomon or something...) But most people have a pretty good idea of their ancestory back at least a few generations enough so that speculation about how much "Jewish blood" you've got is just idle speculation.
Of course, verlch may have parents or grandparents who escaped some particularly horrible anti-Jewish wave in Europe wherein they abandoned their Jewish identities for protection. Then verlch's questioning might make sense. (Also, it might explain his paranoia-- but not his own anti-Jewish sentiments...) |
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furshur
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 08:37:33 [Permalink]
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Cuneiformist, I agree that the rest of his post makes no sense. I was just excited that an ity-bity piece of information he wrote had the possibility of being close to correct.
I may be a Bushman I don't know if I have any Bushman blood, but I might. I can do that clicking thing when I talk jibberish....
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 08:42:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
Cuneiformist, I agree that the rest of his post makes no sense. I was just excited that an ity-bity piece of information he wrote had the possibility of being close to correct.
True! That velrch might be correct about something-- even if by accident-- is reason to be happy! 
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I may be a Bushman I don't know if I have any Bushman blood, but I might. I can do that clicking thing when I talk jibberish....
Funny. My jibberish always sounds to me like Chinese-- My vowels becmoe more nasal and I do this tonal thing. Too bad we don't do audio-posts! |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 09:32:53 [Permalink]
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Yes, speaking gibberish is not easy. But have no fear, there is help available from Landover Baptist! Even the most articulate can become fluent in nonsense!
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Our Pastors are very excited about a new Hooked on Phonics DVD being made available exclusively through the Landover Baptist Church. "For the last few years, we've been assisting the folks at Hooked on Phonics in coming up with a quality product," says Landover Pastor, Deacon Fred. "I'm confident that we've created something that will have you babbling in so many tongues you'll damn Pentecostals to Hell with their corrosive envy."
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"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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verlch
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 23:51:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Yes, speaking gibberish is not easy. But have no fear, there is help available from Landover Baptist! Even the most articulate can become fluent in nonsense!
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Speak in Tongues in 5-Days or Your Money Back!
Special Offer
Our Pastors are very excited about a new Hooked on Phonics DVD being made available exclusively through the Landover Baptist Church. "For the last few years, we've been assisting the folks at Hooked on Phonics in coming up with a quality product," says Landover Pastor, Deacon Fred. "I'm confident that we've created something that will have you babbling in so many tongues you'll damn Pentecostals to Hell with their corrosive envy."
They spoke in toungues for a reason. Because of the tower of babel the disciples didn't speak the same language as the disciples. So God made it so everyone could hear the disciple speaking in his own toungue and understood the message. Nowdays I don't understand going to church running around snakes babeling in toungues when everyone knows English. Totally useless... |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 08:34:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
They spoke in toungues for a reason. Because of the tower of babel the disciples didn't speak the same language as the disciples. So God made it so everyone could hear the disciple speaking in his own toungue and understood the message. Nowdays I don't understand going to church running around snakes babeling in toungues when everyone knows English. Totally useless...
The owl, verlch, the owl! Explain how the owl is associated to Molech! |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 08:57:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by filthy
Yes, speaking gibberish is not easy. But have no fear, there is help available from Landover Baptist! Even the most articulate can become fluent in nonsense!
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Speak in Tongues in 5-Days or Your Money Back!
Special Offer
Our Pastors are very excited about a new Hooked on Phonics DVD being made available exclusively through the Landover Baptist Church. "For the last few years, we've been assisting the folks at Hooked on Phonics in coming up with a quality product," says Landover Pastor, Deacon Fred. "I'm confident that we've created something that will have you babbling in so many tongues you'll damn Pentecostals to Hell with their corrosive envy."
They spoke in toungues for a reason. Because of the tower of babel the disciples didn't speak the same language as the disciples. So God made it so everyone could hear the disciple speaking in his own toungue and understood the message. Nowdays I don't understand going to church running around snakes babeling in toungues when everyone knows English. Totally useless...
I agree, in a back-handed sort of way, and assuming I've understood your post.
Hey, I handle venomous snakes on a regular basis. I've gotten a new one. It's in transit, soon to be picked up. It's a large, Mojave Rattlesnake (Crotalus scutalatus), a zoo specimen, rather obese, that will be going up to PA. Oy veh, such a temper!
But, back to the topic, I wonder that all this wallowing about in the aisles and babbling nonsense is little more than attention-getting on the part of the babbler. Some kind of an attempt at status amongst the other babblers.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 09:48:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
But, back to the topic, I wonder that all this wallowing about in the aisles and babbling nonsense is little more than attention-getting on the part of the babbler. Some kind of an attempt at status amongst the other babblers.
I've said this on a number of occasions, filthy. There's a trend for v to introduce some odd thread and then, after the thread slowly dies, return to said thread and post some crazy rant that is only tangentally related to the original thread's topic. This generates more traffic but soon wanes, too. To this, v simply returns, adds new fodder, and so the cycle goes until the thread is locked.
Perhap he posts at some troll forum where various trolls get together and compare notes on how trollish they are:
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49ersrule Hey, I just trolled the Dallas Cowboys forum and got six pages of discussion after posting a thread titled "Why the NFL Cheats so Dallas can Win".
Velrch Oh yeah? I just went to some skeptics website and posted some crap about petrified trees proving creationism is true. It got to 23 pages before they locked it. But they made a whole new thread to address my BS and it got 23 pages, too.
49ersrule Cool-- did you use the strategy of provinding link after link of loony conspiracy websites that never actually address your argument?
Verlch Yeah. And I also pretend not to be able to use grammar, punctuation or HTML tags, so my posts are almost incoherent. It's great!
At least, that's my theory... |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 11:16:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
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Originally posted by filthy
But, back to the topic, I wonder that all this wallowing about in the aisles and babbling nonsense is little more than attention-getting on the part of the babbler. Some kind of an attempt at status amongst the other babblers.
I've said this on a number of occasions, filthy. There's a trend for v to introduce some odd thread and then, after the thread slowly dies, return to said thread and post some crazy rant that is only tangentally related to the original thread's topic. This generates more traffic but soon wanes, too. To this, v simply returns, adds new fodder, and so the cycle goes until the thread is locked.
Perhap he posts at some troll forum where various trolls get together and compare notes on how trollish they are:
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49ersrule Hey, I just trolled the Dallas Cowboys forum and got six pages of discussion after posting a thread titled "Why the NFL Cheats so Dallas can Win".
Velrch Oh yeah? I just went to some skeptics website and posted some crap about petrified trees proving creationism is true. It got to 23 pages before they locked it. But they made a whole new thread to address my BS and it got 23 pages, too.
49ersrule Cool-- did you use the strategy of provinding link after link of loony conspiracy websites that never actually address your argument?
Verlch Yeah. And I also pretend not to be able to use grammar, punctuation or HTML tags, so my posts are almost incoherent. It's great!
At least, that's my theory...
Yeah, I know. He has often frustrated me in much this way.
But that was when I was taking him seriously. These days, I'm just along for the ride. It's fun, of sorts, and it gives me excuses to go off on tangents of my own without starting another thread, now and again. Fer 'xample:
The Second Coming -- W. B. Yeats
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
I heard Buffy St. Marie sing this once.....
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 18:07:26 [Permalink]
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originally posted by verlch:
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
jewwatch.com?
Come on verlch, how low can you sink?
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I'm a Jew dude, well my son is for sure. I'm not sure how much Jewish blood runs through me, but I'm sure its atleast half!
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The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 21:40:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
And this is why you use a whacko anti-semetic website as a reference?
It's not the first time he's posted odd anti-Jewish far-right Christian stuff here, either. It was back in his women-cause-all-ills phase. Nevertheless, he's also more than once claimed not to harbor anti-Jewish sentiment. I don't get it...
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 03:40:25 [Permalink]
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Whaddahell, if verlch is Jewish or only thinks he is, or merely wants to be, so what? The religious beliefs he has demonstrated here are pretty much fundie Christian.
I don't understand the problem.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 11:39:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Whaddahell, if verlch is Jewish or only thinks he is, or merely wants to be, so what? The religious beliefs he has demonstrated here are pretty much fundie Christian.
I don't understand the problem.
I have family that's Jewish, you guys are retarded. I'll post something from a black panther site if it is relation to what I am saying. I'm far from being perfect I don't understand why you folks deal harshly with me for being a Christian. I try and be a good moral human. Honest in my dealings with other human beings. I don't steal from anybody, try and follow the ways in the bible that God wants us to live! Yet you have to find every little peice of contention and strike me with it. For what purpose? To make me look bad? Its a good strategy, though I'll give you that! I want nothing but the best for you guys...later. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 11:48:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by filthy
Whaddahell, if verlch is Jewish or only thinks he is, or merely wants to be, so what? The religious beliefs he has demonstrated here are pretty much fundie Christian.
I don't understand the problem.
I have family that's Jewish, you guys are retarded. I'll post something from a black panther site if it is relation to what I am saying. I'm far from being perfect I don't understand why you folks deal harshly with me for being a Christian. I try and be a good moral human. Honest in my dealings with other human beings. I don't steal from anybody, try and follow the ways in the bible that God wants us to live! Yet you have to find every little peice of contention and strike me with it. For what purpose? To make me look bad? Its a good strategy, though I'll give you that! I want nothing but the best for you guys...later.
And when, o verlch, do you intend on addressing the outstanding issue of the owl being related to Molech? This isn't the first time you got your ass kicked on a point so you changed the subject.
Are you giving up on this point and should we just add "The owl is a symbol of Molech worship" to the long littany of unsupported verlch claims?
We don't deal harshly with you because you are a Christian. We deal harshly with you based on your arguementation style and inconstitancies in your arguements. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 20:03:41 [Permalink]
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Valiant Dancer wrote:quote:
We don't deal harshly with you because you are a Christian. We deal harshly with you based on your arguementation style and inconstitancies in your arguements.
He's been told that many times now. The whole "persecuted Christian" thing is another one of the delusions that verlch cannot let go. |
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