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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/26/2004 :  10:16:55  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Thousands dead so far...

Magnitude 8.9 off of Sumatra

Seismic Monitor

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

the_ignored
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Posted - 12/26/2004 :  23:16:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Sometimes words fail me: On a side note: get a load of this shit:
quote:
For those who want to learn more when they have the time (approximately 9 page .pdf file - just ignore the parts referring to 'millions of years ago'):

USGS site

This Dynamic Planet
World Map of Volcanoes, Earthquakes,
Impact Craters, and Plate Tectonics

It's pretty interesting how everything works together. The more informed we are as Christians, the better able we will be to explain the end times to Christians and non-Christians alike.
If you morons ignore well established facets of geology like you encourage earlier in your post, you won't be able to explain jack-squat to someone who really knows geology!

EDIT:
And in the post after that!
quote:
I totally agree...I've had several people ask me recently, "Now tell me why earthquakes have anything to do with the bible?"

What a great opportunity to share the gospel and the news of revelation and current issues. Watchman just emailed me that there have been 2 more and it looks like it is walking right up the Jave Trench...now I don't want to go to bed.

Lord, Lord, this is incredible. Praying for the millions of people who are affected. Jesus, please let them see your glory and know you as we do.
Jesus Christ! They are using this effing disaster as a preaching opportunity! Their own alleged "god" just KILLED thousands of people (if you assume he exists), and they calling it a "great opportunity"?!

What in hell could he possibly mean by: "let them see your glory and know you as we do?" Surely he can't mean a "loving god" since "he" just killed off thousands of the family and friends of the people over there?! Maybe he wants them all to be afraid of god?? Maybe he honestly thinks that "hey, god gave you people a tremendous sign that killed thousands of your people just to let you know that he exists! See, he really does love you!"
[Edited to patch up quoting - Dave W.]

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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filthy
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  01:40:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I've read several articles on it. 8.9 is one hell of a shaking, especally to those of us who have never experienced a quake to amount ot anything. I've experienced one very mild one and cannot fathom the horror that hit those unfortunate countries.

quote:
It's pretty interesting how everything works together. The more informed we are as Christians, the better able we will be to explain the end times to Christians and non-Christians alike.
Interesting certainly, but as an excuse for Bible-thumping, it's not much better than any disaster other than scale.
quote:
[quote=RR idiot]For those who want to learn more when they have the time (approximately 9 page .pdf file - just ignore the parts referring to 'millions of years ago'):



Is there no sand pit too deep that these nitwits can't bury their heads clear to the bottom of it? Those people need food, medicine and some sort of basic shelter. They should work toward that end, not spend their time boring their neighbors with blather.


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filthy
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  02:19:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Another article on it, one that I'd read yesterday:

quote:
"All the planet is vibrating" from the quake, said Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute. Speaking on SKY TG24 TV, Boschi said the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation.
Can anyone elaborate on this quote?


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  06:09:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Im sure it threw off the rotation by a miniscule fraction of a second or something, nothing unusual.

I would like to state that when I made my predictions for 05', my vision was slightly blurry and apparently the quake was to come 'just before' 05 and 7.0-8.0 was supposed to read 7.0-8.9, typo ya know.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  08:49:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Ok, what happened is this, Large slab of earth plate moves 100 feet to the west in a short period, not only does it change the center of gravity for the planet but it also has another effect as the massive weight shifts, the speed or rotation can be affected slightly. Like spining around with weights in your hand, if you move the weights the speed will be changed.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  09:27:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
CNN is reporting that the quake was actually a 9.1, or 58% stronger than an 8.9 earthquake. In terms of energy released, a 9.1 quake is the equivalent of approximately 45,115 megatons of TNT, dwarving our largest nukes by a factor of over 1,000.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  11:19:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Yeah when I was in Anchorage last I went to some lookout point type thing which was like a 100 foot dropoff, it was a flatland neighborhood before the 64 quake. Pretty awesome, in the traditional sense.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Siberia
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  12:05:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
My brother-in-law tells he experienced a 5.0 earthquake during his stay at Chile, where he was living. He said he cried of fear on his apartment, the poor thing. He was certain he was gonna die a horrible death... but he survived unscathed.

Now, imagine a 9.1. Quite a kick, heh?

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Ricky
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  12:56:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Now, imagine a 9.1. Quite a kick, heh?


I seem to remember learning a 10 would result global destruction, so strong that the earth would literally break apart.

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@tomic
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  13:33:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
I'd just like to thank God for at least waiting until the day after Christmas to kill all those people. In 1964 God just couldn't wait and did them all in on Good Friday. It really makes you think.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  13:49:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
10 would not be global destruction, It would probably be felt worldwide though.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  13:49:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
CNN has downgraded it to a 9.0, now. A 12 would pretty much split the globe, as it would be equivalent to 160 trillion tons of TNT set off in a very short period of time. Compare this 160 million megatons to a generously-estimated 42,145 total nuclear warheads worldwide which, if they all had the yeild of the largest Russian warhead ever tested (hardly likely), would total a miniscule 2.1 million megatons.

But, as this page notes, the planet receives the energy equivalent of a 160-teraton explosion each and every day from the Sun. Obviously, how and where that energy is distributed makes a difference in its effects.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  16:18:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Places to donate to:American Red Cross Donate Page

International Red Cross Donation Page

Doctors Without Borders

And now, something to make us all sick...

quote:
This little fact is so cool to me....the western coast must have lost 200 feet for the middle of the island to be moved over by 100 feet...or is it that the island actually moved that much??? Wow! God is so good, and all those people should be flat on their faces that they are still alive after a miracle like this!!!...

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Paulos23
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  17:03:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by the_ignored


And now, something to make us all sick...

quote:
This little fact is so cool to me....the western coast must have lost 200 feet for the middle of the island to be moved over by 100 feet...or is it that the island actually moved that much??? Wow! God is so good, and all those people should be flat on their faces that they are still alive after a miracle like this!!!...




How bloody arrogant. First to asume this is a miracle, and second to think that they want to prase God after a disaster like that.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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Kil
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Posted - 12/27/2004 :  17:42:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Dave W:
Obviously, how and where that energy is distributed makes a difference in its effects.

That is what Storm had been trying to tell you...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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