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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:20:13  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
Why the "skeptics always act as the believers forums?

Just because their idols are made of shit?


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Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.

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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:33:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:45:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.



Since you have provided no modicum of proof for your facts(tm) and decided only to deride those who disagree with you, your premise suffers from subverted support.

Why are you so afraid to face reality on your crusade against Randi and those who disagree with you?


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Ricky
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:46:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
When people can't understand you, when your arguments don't make sense, when you make claims which you can't back up, you are by definition, incoherent.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:48:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.



Since you have provided no modicum of proof for your facts(tm) and decided only to deride those who disagree with you, your premise suffers from subverted support.

Why are you so afraid to face reality on your crusade against Randi and those who disagree with you?





That is your opinion based in your beliefs and fanatism.
The evidence is there.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:50:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.



Since you have provided no modicum of proof for your facts(tm) and decided only to deride those who disagree with you, your premise suffers from subverted support.

Why are you so afraid to face reality on your crusade against Randi and those who disagree with you?





That is your opinion based in your beliefs and fanatism.
The evidence is there.



Pot. Kettle. Black.


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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  13:53:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.



Since you have provided no modicum of proof for your facts(tm) and decided only to deride those who disagree with you, your premise suffers from subverted support.

Why are you so afraid to face reality on your crusade against Randi and those who disagree with you?





That is your opinion based in your beliefs and fanatism.
The evidence is there.



Pot. Kettle. Black.





Touche

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Rubicon95
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  14:24:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rubicon95 a Private Message
From a believer, latinijral back it up or shut up!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  14:25:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Yeah, being an admin here, I get to draw that line. You'll notice that you have not been banned, nor have I closed this thread.
quote:
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?
What truth? That they are human beings, and thus not perfect? I faced that truth back when I was a child. Big deal, get over it.

Now, if you could, for example, offer evidence which showed that James Randi hands over money to Sylvia Browne on a regular basis, you might have something. But miscommunications between JREF staff and Carlos don't rise to anything more than mistakes, at worst (and on both sides). And the deal with MoeFaux has been so well-publicized among thousands of JREF supporters that if there's anything to it, the IRS will be investigating soon.

So, what would you have us do, anyway? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that every bad thing you've heard about Randi is true. While we might desire a less-dispicable character as a skeptical "leader" (and there are plenty more to choose from), him being a crappy guy in no way lessens the import of what he's trying to do. And it certainly doesn't reflect badly upon us, who are completely independent of Randi.

So again, what would you have us do?
quote:
I hope it is not an insult to you.
Your implication that everyone here bows and scrapes for James Randi is what is insulting. We're not a bunch of mindless adoring fans of Randi, but instead mostly people who carefully consider what the guy has to say before either agreeing with it or not (as does, indeed, happen). If you can't tell the difference, the problem is yours, and not ours.

And insulting us doesn't make it our problem, either. It only makes you a problem.

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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  14:35:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Yeah, being an admin here, I get to draw that line. You'll notice that you have not been banned, nor have I closed this thread.
quote:
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?
What truth? That they are human beings, and thus not perfect? I faced that truth back when I was a child. Big deal, get over it.

Now, if you could, for example, offer evidence which showed that James Randi hands over money to Sylvia Browne on a regular basis, you might have something. But miscommunications between JREF staff and Carlos don't rise to anything more than mistakes, at worst (and on both sides). And the deal with MoeFaux has been so well-publicized among thousands of JREF supporters that if there's anything to it, the IRS will be investigating soon.

So, what would you have us do, anyway? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that every bad thing you've heard about Randi is true. While we might desire a less-dispicable character as a skeptical "leader" (and there are plenty more to choose from), him being a crappy guy in no way lessens the import of what he's trying to do. And it certainly doesn't reflect badly upon us, who are completely independent of Randi.

So again, what would you have us do?
quote:
I hope it is not an insult to you.
Your implication that everyone here bows and scrapes for James Randi is what is insulting. We're not a bunch of mindless adoring fans of Randi, but instead mostly people who carefully consider what the guy has to say before either agreeing with it or not (as does, indeed, happen). If you can't tell the difference, the problem is yours, and not ours.

And insulting us doesn't make it our problem, either. It only makes you a problem.



Are you another one who is using Carlos as your excuse?

Who the hell told you I came here to write about Carlos?
Read again the OP of the thread you locked .
If Randi , Linda or kramer don't have any evidence of why they gave the $5000 to Moefoe is not my fault.
They changed the rules of the scoolarship AFTER they gave the money.
That is a fact.

Now if you want to talk about Carlos , it is your problem , not mine.
Are you afraid to be on topic?



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Ricky
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  15:22:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Read again the OP of the thread you locked .


Read the last post, the admins/moderators do that to every thread that becomes too long here.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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filthy
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  17:19:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
What the hell is he on about, now?

Who got banned? What closed thread?

Why am I getting involved in this?


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Ricky
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  17:47:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Why am I getting involved in this?


Filthy and Moefox, sitting in a tree...

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  17:50:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.

Playing word games with us in this matter is insulting!
You're whining like child. Get over it.

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latinijral
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Posted - 01/31/2005 :  18:35:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Ah, good, you started a new thread. Let's hope it's more coherent than the last one. Of course, you're not off to a good start when the only reason you seem to have started this one is to insult people.



Then you are the one who thinks what coherent is?
Or you are just afraid to face the truth about your idols?

I hope it is not an insult to you.

Playing word games with us in this matter is insulting!
You're whining like child. Get over it.



Are you Dave's sock puppet?

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