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filthy
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Posted - 03/04/2005 :  04:16:52  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
The latest on the so-called Hobbit.
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By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA, AP Science Writer

Scientists working with powerful imaging computers say the spectacular "Hobbit" fossil recently discovered in Indonesia had distinctive brain features that could justify its classification as a separate — and tiny — human ancestor.

The new report, published Thursday in the online journal Science Express, seems to support the idea of a sophisticated human dwarf species marooned for eons while modern man proliferated.

The new research produced a computer-generated model that compared surface impressions on the inside of the fossil skull with brain casts of modern and ancient humans, as well as chimps and other primates.

The scientists said the model shows that the 3-foot specimen, nicknamed Hobbit, had a brain unlike anything they had seen before in the human lineage. The brain is chimplike in size, about 417 cubic centimeters.

Yet the Hobbit's brain shared wrinkled surface features with the much larger brains of both modern humans and Homo erectus, a tool-making ancestor that lived in southeast Asia more than 1 million years ago. Some of those brain features are consistent with higher cognitive traits.

I do hope that they find another skull soon.


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Posted - 03/04/2005 :  11:10:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Also great news, the guy who stole the fossil bones returned them the other day.

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Dude
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Posted - 03/04/2005 :  16:33:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
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Also great news, the guy who stole the fossil bones returned them the other day.



Good!

And yes, they should excavate that entire island.


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filthy
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Posted - 03/04/2005 :  18:47:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Another article on Homo floresiensis.
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Hopping mad over 'hobbit'
Scientists fight over fossil skull and bones of humanlike creature

David Perlman, Chronicle Science Editor

Friday, March 4, 2005

Take a single fossil skull the size of a chimpanzee that might have held a highly advanced human brain, a trove of ancient humanlike bones and teeth, and an odd assortment of stone tools from an unknown age, and you add a major new mystery to the endless puzzle of human evolution.

Now add a dose of intrigue to the mystery, as a team of angry anthropologists charges one of their colleagues with outrageously unethical behavior, including destroying evidence that might have helped to solve the arcane puzzle.

All this surfaced Thursday, furthering the astonishment of scientists around the world that began in October when the anthropologists first reported they had discovered the remains of a bizarre creature barely 3 feet tall that seemed part modern human and part ancient ancestor -- a creature they affectionately named "hobbit."

Needless to say, but I am fascinated by the whole thing. If indeed it turns out that this is skull not merely microcephalic, and it appears that it's certainly not, and it is indeed a subspcies of erectus far closer than ourselves, the implications for human evolution are stunning. How many other species branched off in bizaar ways as well?

I wonder if Noah had hobbits on the ark. Or, being human 'kind,' were they represented by Noah hisownself? Ah, the mysteries of the ancient past...


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