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Kilik
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Posted - 04/01/2005 :  20:14:49  Show Profile Send Kilik a Private Message
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/scrolltranslation.html

http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum-intr.htm

http://biblicalstudies.info/top10/schoville.htm

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rels/225/bronow3.htm

Edgar Cayce knew the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls before they were found, and knew of the Sons of Belial since the times of atlantis

http://www.edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysteries/ancient_index.html

SOme atlanteans drilled holes into the earth. There were two groups in atlantis , The Children of the Law of One and the Sons of Belial. THe SOns of Beleial did harm the environment

http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html

http://www.s8int.com/water1.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992589/posts

The different groups of Atlantis are explained in the book " THe Children of the Law of ONe and the lost teachings of Atlantis." The sons of BElial contantly thirsted for power and slavery, the CHildren of the Law of One only sought to help others, and to think of others first
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/free-online-chapters.htm

http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/tableofcontents.htm

Falun Dafa is a great cultivation path, being severely persecuted in China
http://clearwisdom.net/emh/index.html

http://www.faluninfo.net/

http://www.faluninfo.net/torturemethods2/

http://clearwisdom.net/emh/special_column/death_cases/death_list.html

Here is a good article
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/4-12-18/24972.html

Harsh evil
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/4-12-30/25329.html

All is vibration, with the nature of truthfullness, compassion, and tolerance

Here are the main study books of Falun Dafa, then include alot of info on the supernormal, psychic etc.
http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.htm

Turning the Law wheel, great LAw book
http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_new.html
The same beings which destroyed Atlantis, and the past humans in the past cycle, are now controlling and are part of, the CHinese Communist Party

http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2000/11/5/9115.html

PRophecy of the book of Revelation is indeed refferring to now, and the situation in CHina

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2002/7/27/1094.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2002/7/29/1095.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/10/6/1873.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2004/6/28/2369.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2005/1/24/2731.html

The coming of an important eastern messenger is predicted by Nostradamus

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2005/3/28/2865.html

The article also mentions Hermes, A high Greek God. He was also Thoth, the top Egyptian God.

Thoth was the top Egyptian God, but actually an Atlantean. In other lives he was Hermes and others. After the destruction of Atlantis he and his soul mate Atlanteans went around the world, to Egypt, south america, yucutan, and finally Tibet. He and Atlanteans set up proper monastaries for cultivation, and helped raise all kindred human spirits trapped in this plane, to at least the current human body level and the current human body was established I beleive, I may be a little off on the exact times for that. He put the knowledge and mysteries of enlightenment into secret oracles such as the Tarot card, making it hard to understand by many people, and only the most sinscere would find the way. In this way the skills, methods, and teachings of Atlantis could be preserved until today.

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/theos...ald_preface.htm

Could this tablet, possibly be speaking of the Falun being turned in the future!? I don't know!

"Preserve them and guard them,
hide them in symbols,
so the profane will laugh and renounce.
In every land, form ye the mysteries.
Make the way hard for the seeker to tread.

Thus will the weak and the wavering be rejected.
Thus will the secrets be hidden and guarded,
held till the time when the wheel shall be turned."

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald14bw.html

My understanding is Thoth, MAster of the Children of the Law of One went to Egypt after the Belians destroyed atlantis. There, he created divination oracles, such as the Tarot, to insure only very sinscere seekers would find the ancient knowledge of Atlantis, until this current time.

Book of Revelations
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/KjvReve.html

Edgar Cayce's take on Revelation and Prophecy is very similar
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce10.html

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/4/28/1582.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html
http://ufoevidence.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=MYTH&action=display&num=1057134096
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/galleries/belize/photo2.html
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/18bermuda.html
[Moved to the General Skepticism folder - Dave W.]

R.Wreck
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Posted - 04/01/2005 :  22:06:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kilik:

Edgar Cayce knew the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls before they were found, and knew of the Sons of Belial since the times of atlantis



You're citing Edgar Cayce? <snicker>




The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/01/2005 :  22:14:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
And Kilik is also posting links which posit other origins for the Great Blue Hole off Belize than "SOme atlanteans drilled holes into the earth." Self-consistency is obviously not the point, here.

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Why not question something for a change?
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Kilik
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  02:09:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kilik a Private Message
An actual explanation of exactly how humans evolved and were created in all aspects.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/juliet.htm

Prophecy is not absolute, if righteous beings come and people are one with Great Law, some disasters can be postponed , lessened, or eliminated

http://www.wolflodge.org/sananda/edgar_cayce.htm

Prophecy concerning the current time period
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/edgar_cayce.htm
Edited by - Kilik on 04/02/2005 02:20:58
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filthy
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  02:17:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
We're all over the place, here; from Revelation to Atlantis to some professor emeritus of biblcai studies that, when his writings are examined, is shown to be soething of a Bible literalist. Why can we not pick a single topic, exhaust it, then continue on from there?

I rather liked this:
quote:
Thoth was the top Egyptian God, but actually an Atlantean. In other lives he was Hermes and others. After the destruction of Atlantis he and his soul mate Atlanteans went around the world, to Egypt, south america, yucutan, and finally Tibet. He and Atlanteans set up proper monastaries for cultivation, and helped raise all kindred human spirits trapped in this plane, to at least the current human body level and the current human body was established I beleive, I may be a little off on the exact times for that. He put the knowledge and mysteries of enlightenment into secret oracles such as the Tarot card, making it hard to understand by many people, and only the most sinscere would find the way. In this way the skills, methods, and teachings of Atlantis could be preserved until today.


Mythology aside, what archological evidence is there for Atlantis ever existing?

Oh, and Edgar Cayce is about as good a reference as, oh, say, Nostradamus. He proves only the gullibility of society in general and those who gave him money in particular. As did Nostradamus.

So, how 'bout we talk about Atlantis? Or maybe the imaginitive flim-flams of Cayce and Michael d'Notradame, the latter of which is particulatly interesting if you've read his history along with The Centuries.

In short, thus far, I've seen better organization in birds running around the barnyard sans head. If you wish to discuss, let's discuss. But if all you want to do is wave your hands and post links, many if not most unsupported woo-woo, then there is little discussion possible.


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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filthy
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  02:34:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kilik

An actual explanation of exactly how humans evolved and were created in all aspects.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/juliet.htm

Prophecy is not absolute, if righteous beings come and people are one with Great Law, some disasters can be postponed , lessened, or eliminated

http://www.wolflodge.org/sananda/edgar_cayce.htm

Prophecy concerning the current time period
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/edgar_cayce.htm

These links are completely unsupported by even the vaguest of science.
quote:
As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken
up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of
Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will
be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear
off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals
in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the
eruption of volcanos in the Torrid areas, and there will be
shifting then of the poles - so that where there has been
those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more
tropical, and moss and fern will grow. And these will begin
in those periods in '58 to '98, when these will be proclaimed
as the periods when His light will be seen again in the
clouds. As to times, as to seasons, as to places, ALONE is
it given to those who have named the name - and who bear the
mark of those of His calling and His election in their
bodies. To them it shall be given.

More metaphysical codswallop with no empirical evidence of anything. Cayce had a thing for shifting poles, you know. They played a part in many if not most of his "predictions." But like all psychics and most preachers, the 'Sleeping Seer' merely told his clients what they wanted to hear.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Kilik
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  02:50:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kilik a Private Message
quote:

As to times, as to seasons, as to places, ALONE is
it given to those who have named the name


http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/chapter-nineteen-pg2.htm


quote:
- and who bear the
mark of those of His calling and His election in their
bodies. To them it shall be given.


http://media1.minghui.org/media/dafa/en_mpg/Instruction.ram

http://media1.minghui.org/media/dafa/en_mpg/ExeDemo_08.ram

http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2002/5/20/22253.html


From http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2002/4/14/2002natourlect.html-
"If the Fa-rectification really were damaged, the cosmos would truly cease to exist, and the old forces would be gone, too; not a single being would exist, and everything would disintegrate. Although the old forces want to renew the cosmos, in reality they can't accomplish that. So their being attached to what they want to do and the role they play trying to control the Fa-rectification is one hundred percent bad. All the interference with Fa-rectification was arranged by them, so when things aren't done according to their arrangements and wishes, they do bad things. In the Fa-rectification these beings are to be weeded out. While clarifying the truth, you've seen that some people are really hard to save now. Actually, I can tell you that a lot of people in the world are already completely beyond saving. Do you remember that line I wrote, "How many can be saved by mercy?" Dafa disciples, no matter how much you sacrifice when you clarify the truth, I've got to tell you, in the end there will still be many beings that can't be saved--they're doomed to be weeded out. I know how many people in Mainland China will be eliminated, and it's terrifying--the number is just enormous."
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filthy
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  04:14:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
From http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2002/4/14/2002natourlect.html-
"If the Fa-rectification really were damaged, the cosmos would truly cease to exist, and the old forces would be gone, too; not a single being would exist, and everything would disintegrate. Although the old forces want to renew the cosmos, in reality they can't accomplish that. So their being attached to what they want to do and the role they play trying to control the Fa-rectification is one hundred percent bad. All the interference with Fa-rectification was arranged by them, so when things aren't done according to their arrangements and wishes, they do bad things. In the Fa-rectification these beings are to be weeded out. While clarifying the truth, you've seen that some people are really hard to save now. Actually, I can tell you that a lot of people in the world are already completely beyond saving. Do you remember that line I wrote, "How many can be saved by mercy?" Dafa disciples, no matter how much you sacrifice when you clarify the truth, I've got to tell you, in the end there will still be many beings that can't be saved--they're doomed to be weeded out. I know how many people in Mainland China will be eliminated, and it's terrifying--the number is just enormous."

Saved from what?

I remind that China is rife with superstition. Even many in the educated class' firmly believe that bear and snake gall bladders are an afrodisaic and a cure for almost anything from dementia to dropsy, and have for milinia. Chinese history is much more interesting than the hop-dreams of Chinese metaphysics.

Can any of this be suppported through scientific observation and experimentation?


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Dude
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  05:51:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
This dude isn't interested in discussing anything, he's just spamming a bunch of loosly related links (some contradicting each other, as Dave_W pointed out).


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  09:14:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy:

Can any of this be suppported through scientific observation and experimentation?


Originally posted by Dude:

This dude isn't interested in discussing anything, he's just spamming a bunch of loosly related links (some contradicting each other, as Dave_W pointed out).


So gentlemen, let's put on our aluminum foil hats, crank up our zero-point energy machines, hail the mothership, and head off to Atlantis!

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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Cuneiformist
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Kilik=verlch?
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Kil
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  13:25:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Kilik:
An actual explanation of exactly how humans evolved and were created in all aspects.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html

quote:
From the above link:
A way to liberate the souls that were entangled in matter was created. A physical form became available as a vehicle for the soul on earth. A way became available for souls to enter the earth and experience it as part of their evolutionary/reincarnation cycle. Of the physical forms already existing on earth, a species of anthropoid ape most nearly approached the necessary pattern. Souls descended on these apes - hovering above and about them rather than inhabiting them - and influenced them to move toward a different goal from the simple one they had been pursuing. They came down out of the trees, built fires, made tools, lived in communities, and began to communicate with each other. Eventually they lost their animal look, shed bodily hair, and took on refinements of manner and habit.

The evolution of the human body occurred partly through the soul's influence on the endocrine glands until the ape-man was a three-dimensional objectification of the soul that hovered above it. Then the soul fully descended into the body and earth had a new inhabitant: the homo sapien.

Homo sapiens appeared in five different places on earth at the same time, as the five races. This evolved human is what the Bible refers to as "Adam". When souls incarnated into physical form, it would bring the divine consciousness (i.e., the spirit) in with it.
Underline, mine.

Wow! But what can you expect citing Edgar Casey as the expert. Kilik, it may be time for you to learn a little about science. One thing I can tell you is that you will not impress anyone on this site with nonsense like the above. Since this is the only link I followed, because of your opening statement, I will be hard pressed to bother doing that again. My time is to precious a thing to me to be wasting it on obvious crap. You are on a science site now and unlike many of the followers of woo, we actually care about science and accuracy on subjects like human origins.

I have to warn you. Check your links for accuracy. If there is baloney there, it will be seen for what it is and exposed. That is, if we do not become weary of even looking at them. And since you keep posting them willy nilly, that outcome is pretty much guaranteed.

Make your claim and then support it with relevant links, if you must. Then, be prepared for us to point out your mistakes if you haven't taken the time to check your own sources.

One more thing. Please do concentrate on the threads that you have already opened. Opening more threads will not further your cause and will only serve to annoy and demonstrate to me that you did not understand my first post to you on the matter of spamming.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Kil
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Posted - 04/02/2005 :  13:29:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

Kilik=verlch?


No way...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

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quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

Kilik=verlch?


No way...



Right-- Kilik actually uses good grammar and punctuation. It was the Belial thing that threw me off. I was waiting for something about the Washington Monument and owls!
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quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

Kilik=verlch?


No way...



Right-- Kilik actually uses good grammar and punctuation. It was the Belial thing that threw me off. I was waiting for something about the Washington Monument and owls!



And Molech, you can't forget Molech and his evil minions, the Freemasons.

Killik doesn't seem to be positing any relationship, so it probably isn't verlch.

He does seem a little entrenched in metaphysics and assumes the existance of Atlantis. I'm kinda curious of his stance on Lemuria.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Kilik
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Posted - 04/04/2005 :  11:12:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kilik a Private Message
Lemuria I understand to be even older than atlantis. . I understand there was a war between atlantis and lemuria and the lemurians were trapped underground and buried in their own underground tunnels and shelters. But basically the legends of half animal half man creatures around the world comes from pre history. In particular the idea of bird headed creatures is from remnants of lemuria

http://phoenix.about.com/cs/shop/a/kachina01.htm

http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/cambodia/1.htm

http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/hm/c8/p136.jpg

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/minotaur.html


I don't know if this article is exact but it has the right idea
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm
Edited by - Kilik on 04/04/2005 11:14:34
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