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Dry_vby
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Australia
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Posted - 08/11/2005 :  22:12:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message
I thought "Conspiracy theories" was in the humor section.

My mistake, I wasn't concentrating.

I'll try to be more serious about it from now until.....

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

Bob Dylan
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ktesibios
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2005 :  22:32:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
(Let's get a math check: at 3,317,000.0 m above the ground - which is itself 6,378.14 m from the center of my point mass of 5.976x1024 kg representing Earth - my model Cassini of 5,655 kg experiences a force due to Earth's gravity of 71,088.785 newtons. Everyone else get that number?)



Dave, if the Earth's radius were 6378.14 meters, the joint would be awfully crowded. If I use an Earth radius of 6378.14 kilometers and an Earth mass of 5.976 e24 kg to find the force exerted on a 1 kg mass at the earth's surface, as a check on the value I'm using for G, I get something very close to the 9.8 m/s^2 acceleration of Earth-surface gravity, so I don't think I'm fucking up the sums too badly.

If I assume that you meant km instead of m for both distances, then what I get with your numbers is 0.204 N. If I assume that you really meant 3317000 meters above ground, and use 6378.14 kilometers for the Earth's radius, I get 23987.8 N.

What color is my tesseract?


"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/12/2005 :  02:28:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message


Well, suppose the crap ranging system of NASA's buffoons is able to locate the probe relatively to the Earth.

But the Earth runs at 65,000 miles per hour and turns around itself at 1,000 miles per hour.

Radio signals from the probe near Saturn arrive to the Earth after 1 hour and 20 minutes.

Suppose NASA's buffoons have invented a system able to take into account all these difficulties (But if your tower control is in the opposite place - the Earth turns around itself - as regards your probe ... can your crap system receive the radio signal?) calculating the displacement of the Earth and its rotation, and the delay of radio signals.

And then??? Have they solved anything???

NO, THEY HAVE SOLVED NOTHING, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THEIR PROBE AS REGARDS SATURN, OR VENUS, OR MARS, OR JUPITER THEREFORE (I like this word)

THEREFORE...

THEREFORE...

THEREFORE THEY CAN'T STEER THE PROBE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THE TARGET AS REGARDS THEIR BULLET




"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
Publius Terentius Afer, "Terence", Roman dramatist

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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/12/2005 :  02:54:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message

Hey, Have you seen "Views"?
In 4 days I have breaked all records

In my country "skeptic" means "incredulous".

Are you all gullible people in this forum

Look at this movie
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepimpact/multimedia/070405-HRI-impact.html

Tempel1 seems a bad animal. You can see its eyes, the nose, the mouth.

The bad animal is hit in the right eye.

Hurra! for NASA. They have killed the monster.

But what is that light? An explosion? But an explosion needs oxygen.

Softimage, Maya, 3ds max, LightWave instead don't need oxygen

"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
Publius Terentius Afer, "Terence", Roman dramatist

Edited by - bigbrain on 08/12/2005 04:07:45
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 :  04:41:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ktesibios

Dave, if the Earth's radius were 6378.14 meters, the joint would be awfully crowded.
That'll be another "duh" on my part.
quote:
If I assume that you really meant 3317000 meters above ground, and use 6378.14 kilometers for the Earth's radius, I get 23987.8 N.
That's what I meant, but that's going to make my model's problems worse, not better.

Of course, now that we're at 15 pages, I've gotta lock this thread due to its length. As always, anyone wishing to discuss this further can open a new thread.

[Edited to say that there are continuation threads here and here.]

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