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pleco
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  09:28:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Love those photos Randy!

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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  09:48:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Subjectmatter a Private Message
Welcome Scotty!

Although I rather think you've misquoted Terry Pratchett in your signature, I'm fairly certain it should say "agin".
Unfortunately I do not have the novel here, but perhaps you do. Do check it out.

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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  11:39:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Randy

"So the picture you take is set for bright objects. Stars are faint objects! In the fast exposure, they simply do not have time to register on the film. It has nothing to do with the sky being black or the lack of air, it's just a matter of exposure time. If you were to go outside here on Earth on the darkest night imaginable and take a picture with the exact same camera settings the astronauts used, you won't see any stars!"


Answer MY COOL QUESTIONS, not other questions:

Exposure of your cameras on the moon was adjustable and on Cassini is adjustable.

Astronauts, not knowing the right exposure on the moon, will have tested different exposures. How is it possible that no one image shows the stars?

Have they never mistaken exposure?

Why have they never raised their cameras to photo only resplendent stars?

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT IN NO PICTURE THERE IS NOT ONLY ONE STAR AT LEAST BY MISTAKE.
IT IS TOO INCREDIBLE TO BE TRUE


NASA buffoons are only swindlers and you are only gullible people








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Fripp
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  12:21:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message
How about answering our cool questions...namely: Are there any satellites in orbit around Earth right now?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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filthy
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  12:32:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I don't know much about photography, but, with the state-of-the-art of even a couple of decades or so ago, wouldn't the focus be automatic, adjusting itself to the conditions?

Any out of focus or otherwise screwed-up pics would not have been published. Would you paste a crappy photo of Uncle Guido in the family alblum when a better one can be had? Unless, of course, you really hate your dear uncle.... I've no doubt that NASA has barrels of blown photos that should be shitcanned but are being saved for further study that most of them won't get, anyway.

I think that you should address some of the points that Scotty has brought up -- and that indeed I and others have brought up lo, these many pages, threads, and gibbers ago.

Or do you have no answers; only more of that same gibberage?






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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  13:03:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Let's talk about the subject.

Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Yes, it could, if you strap a big enough rocket onto Cassini.
But big rockets are too expensive, and you need an even bigger launch-vehicle for the bigger rocket which is even more expensive. The launch cost rises exponentially with the size of the rocket on the Cassini.
Instead of costing 3,3 Billion Dollars, it would probably have costed 15 billion Dollars, maybe more to build a rocket big enough to fly Cassini to Saturn via the shortest rout.


Don't say craps. NASA buffoons did not need a bigger rocket.
If you run away from the sun directly towards Saturn at 75,000 miles per hour, you don't need bigger fuel than that you need to turn two times round the sun wasting time uselessly.

NASA buffoons want to swindle us with their strange trajectories taken from science fiction.

They want to simulate to make complex calculations of orbital mechanics but they are only swindlers that have not technology to steer a probe to Saturn.

Is this a real image in your opinion?



Why is it faked?

Because Saturn rings are not bright but you can see not even one star in the universe.

Because rings appear like colored grooves and this is impossible because they ought to lie on a plane.


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Fripp
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  13:40:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message
BB: Are there any man-made satellites in orbit around the Earth right now?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Randy
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  13:47:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Let's talk about the subject.

Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Yes, it could, if you strap a big enough rocket onto Cassini.
But big rockets are too expensive, and you need an even bigger launch-vehicle for the bigger rocket which is even more expensive. The launch cost rises exponentially with the size of the rocket on the Cassini.
Instead of costing 3,3 Billion Dollars, it would probably have costed 15 billion Dollars, maybe more to build a rocket big enough to fly Cassini to Saturn via the shortest rout.


Don't say craps. NASA buffoons did not need a bigger rocket.
If you run away from the sun directly towards Saturn at 75,000 miles per hour, you don't need bigger fuel than that you need to turn two times round the sun wasting time uselessly.

NASA buffoons want to swindle us with their strange trajectories taken from science fiction.

They want to simulate to make complex calculations of orbital mechanics but they are only swindlers that have not technology to steer a probe to Saturn.

Is this a real image in your opinion?

Why is it faked?

Because Saturn rings are not bright but you can see not even one star in the universe.

Because rings appear like colored grooves and this is impossible because they ought to lie on a plane.





As with lunar surface photos and no stars, same thing applys with Saturn rings.
The crude Saturn shot below is from my backyard. The rings reflect nearly as much sunlight as the gaseous planet does itself.



Below is a link from a backyard astronomer here in Austin, Texas. The Saturn image clearly shows how bright the rings are along with a couple of Saturn's moons. Again, no stars visible to do brightness of subject and camera settings (yawn, this is tiresome).

http://www.rc-astro.com/solar_system/saturn/saturn.htm

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Hawks
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  14:03:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain


Answer MY COOL QUESTIONS, not other questions:

Exposure of your cameras on the moon was adjustable and on Cassini is adjustable.

Astronauts, not knowing the right exposure on the moon, will have tested different exposures. How is it possible that no one image shows the stars?

Have they never mistaken exposure?

Why have they never raised their cameras to photo only resplendent stars?

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT IN NO PICTURE THERE IS NOT ONLY ONE STAR AT LEAST BY MISTAKE.
IT IS TOO INCREDIBLE TO BE TRUE












I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm actually trying to reason with this moron.

Reread my post from page 1 of this thread. The gist of it is: in order to photograph stars you need exposure times of SEVERAL MINUTES.

Now, why don't you continue to babble about something else which has already been explained to you ad nauseum.

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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  14:39:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Randy

The crude Saturn shot below is from my backyard. The rings reflect nearly as much sunlight as the gaseous planet does itself.


Let's stop with faked images without stars. The subject is Cassini - Huygens Mission Hoax.

Why NASA buffoons have steered the probe two times round the sun instead of going directly towards Saturn?

Try to say something intelligent.









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filthy
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  14:42:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
After careful study, I have finally discovered where b-b-b-B's coming from and why we are having so many problems communicating with him:

"HARANGUE, n. A speech by an opponent, who is known as an harangue-outang."

Ambrose Bierce explains so many things so very well....


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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  14:44:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
bigbrain, go out tonight and take a photo of the stars, then post it here. You claim it's easy to do by mistake, so go do it, and prove the professional photographers wrong.

Then, answer the question: do man-made satellites currently orbit the Earth?

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Randy
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  14:46:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
>snip:
quote:
Originally posted by Hawks

I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm actually trying to reason with this moron.



Yeah, same here...it's like trying to reason with a broken record.

Bitbrain, because of your tireless efforts here at SFN, this thought came to mind....


"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  15:13:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
What is this?



Are they the famous SBP (Saturn Burning Poles) discovered by John Wayne?



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pleco
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Posted - 11/23/2005 :  15:22:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
My guess is something like this that happens on Earth:

http://www.exploratorium.edu/learning_studio/auroras/media/fuv_movie.mpeg

from

http://www.exploratorium.edu/learning_studio/auroras/fromspace.html

But was this taken by a satellite? Is it real?

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