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furshur
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Instead of simulating to spend a lot of money going to Saturn,
instead of spending a lot of money to make a wrong war against Iraq, you ought to spend a lot of money to make war against the drug.
What buffoon. There are no 'drugs'. People are just sniffing powdered milk up there nose. They think they are getting high but it is just the placebo affect.
Geez BBBBbbbBBbbBbbb, you of all people should have been able to figure that out!!!
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pleco
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 14:20:51 [Permalink]
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you ought to spend a lot of money to make war against the drug
Yeah, we all know how successful THAT war is... |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 14:26:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Scotty
I really don't suppose there's much point in reminding BB that the Black and white image he posted Is from the surface of Titan , how can you be sure BB , well the telemetry that included the image was sent from the Saturn space -the doppler shift of the signal was IMPOSSIBLE to fake ... OK BB how do you get a signal from Saturn without actually going there ....
This is a Big NASA Buffoons image
This is my image of Mars made by 3ds max7
What do you notice, little guy?
1 - My image is much better.
2 - That BNB have used the same texture of 3ds max.
Look at the two images carefully.
Without spending any money I have been on Mars too.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 14:51:03 [Permalink]
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Bigbrain,
Are there or are there not man made satelites orbiting the Earth right now?
Answer the question. |
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Randy
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 15:51:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
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Bitbrain drools:
Instead of simulating to spend a lot of money going to Saturn,
instead of spending a lot of money to make a wrong war against Iraq, you ought to spend a lot of money to make war against the drug.
What buffoon. There are no 'drugs'. People are just sniffing powdered milk up there nose. They think they are getting high but it is just the placebo affect.
Geez BBBBbbbBBbbBbbb, you of all people should have been able to figure that out!!!
...and you can bet NASA has a big part in that phony drug war.
Hey Bitbrain, tell us, what do you think of this?....
http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/faq/mission.cfm#q7
The total cost of the Cassini-Huygens mission is about $3.26 billion, including $1.4 billion for pre-launch development, $704 million for mission operations, $54 million for tracking and $422 million for the launch vehicle. The U.S. contributed $ 2.6 billion, the European Space Agency $500 million and the Italian Space Agency $160 million.
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Scotty
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 16:17:41 [Permalink]
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Well BB - so you can you can use some nice friendly software - Woopee - so can I , what does it prove ... NOTHING ... as ever obsufication and a total inability to answer the questions posed to you , how do you fake telemetry coming from Saturn from Earth ... YOU CANT...
Oh as for the Mars pic - very nice - but it took a real image from mars to prvide the inspiration for you ... see the logical problem here ... you only imitate what real talanted engineers and scientist do . just not as well ...
Oh are there man made objects in orbit round earth ... Are there?
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Randy
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 17:55:20 [Permalink]
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>snip:
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Originally posted by Scotty
Oh are there man made objects in orbit round earth ... Are there?
Ditto that.
Hey, Brainbreath, below is a International Space Station tracker...
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html
Here's a on-line visual satellite guide...
http://www.satobs.org/satintro.html
I use a freeware tracker called Home Planet. Along with lunar and planetary info, it also tracks over 1,200 satellites. That's one thousand two hundred satellites. The software tells you the up-to-the-minute satellite location. With those coordinates, you can go outside, look up, and with favorable conditions, view it passing right over your big brain.
Here's a Home Planet sample page of satellite information and where to expect to see it....
http://www.fourmilab.ch/homeplanet/samples/r3/help4.gif
Home Planet can give you a view of earth from a selected satellite, if you like...
http://www.fourmilab.ch/homeplanet/samples/r3/help9.jpg
The below list is only of geo-stationary satellites...
http://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm
So Brainstem,...Are there or are there not man made satellites orbiting the Earth right now?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 23:46:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
My image is much better.
Obviously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me, your image just looks smaller, fuzzier and paler.
But, since you seem to feel free to change the subject on a whim (hypocritically, I might add), are there any man-made satellites in Earth orbit today? That is, any satellites at all? The only previous reply you offered was based on the alleged capabilities of satellites, but that misses the point.
A better question: did the USSR successfully fly Sputnik in 1957? In other words, did that specific man-made satellite complete about 1,400 orbits before re-entry in early 1958? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 03:42:10 [Permalink]
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Ah Sputnik, that takes me back.
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Sputnik and The Dawn of the Space Age
History changed on October 4, 1957, when the Soviet Union successfully launched Sputnik I. The world's first artificial satellite was about the size of a basketball, weighed only 183 pounds, and took about 98 minutes to orbit the Earth on its elliptical path. That launch ushered in new political, military, technological, and scientific developments. While the Sputnik launch was a single event, it marked the start of the space age and the U.S.-U.S.S.R space race.
The story begins in 1952, when the International Council of Scientific Unions decided to establish July 1, 1957, to December 31, 1958, as the International Geophysical Year (IGY) because the scientists knew that the cycles of solar activity would be at a high point then. In October 1954, the council adopted a resolution calling for artificial satellites to be launched during the IGY to map the Earth's surface.
In July 1955, the White House announced plans to launch an Earth-orbiting satellite for the IGY and solicited proposals from various Government research agencies to undertake development. In September 1955, the Naval Research Laboratory's Vanguard proposal was chosen to represent the U.S. during the IGY.
The Sputnik launch changed everything. As a technical achievement, Sputnik caught the world's attention and the American public off-guard. Its size was more impressive than Vanguard's intended 3.5-pound payload. In addition, the public feared that the Soviets' ability to launch satellites also translated into the capability to launch ballistic missiles that could carry nuclear weapons from Europe to the U.S. Then the Soviets struck again; on November 3, Sputnik II was launched, carrying a much heavier payload, including a dog named Laika.
I was aboard a heavy cruiser -- USS Salem, CA 139 -- my first ship. I got to hear the orbiter's signal in the radio shack. Not very impressive in this day & age, but at the time it was the most exciting beeping noise I'd ever heard.
Say b, do you think that the Soviet buffoons faked it? There are a lot of amature astronomers who kept track of it and some claim to have seen it's passing in the night with the naked eye, a minute speck of light moving across the blackened sky. Some of these last were lying of course, but not all of 'em. I spent not a few lookout midwatches hoping to spot it myself, but my luck wasn't in.
I think that we can take Sputnik as a given. It is better documented than Paris Hilton's knockers.
But there are plenty more out there for us to seek enlightenment about. Here's some military projects -- are they all swindles?
Here's some more photos taken by Huygens.
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21 January 2005
A single Huygens DISR image that shows two new features on the surface of Titan. A bright linear feature suggests an area where water ice may have been extruded onto the surface. Also visible are short, stubby dark channels that may have been formed by 'springs' of liquid methane rather than methane 'rain'.
Credits: ESA/NASA/JPL/University of Arizona
Pretty funky photos, if you ask me. Why didn't the European buffoons rig their Huygens fraud so's it'd make pretty? I mean, if you're gonna fake something, you might as well do it right.
Unless, of course, the photos are not faked at all....
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bigbrain
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 14:48:43 [Permalink]
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I am thinking: "What fuck do I care if you have or have not been to Saturn, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Titan, what fuck do I care if you have or have not hit a comet, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Mars, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed on the moon?"
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 15:37:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
I am thinking: "What fuck do I care if you have or have not been to Saturn, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Titan, what fuck do I care if you have or have not hit a comet, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Mars, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed on the moon?"
Exactly right. None of this will make the least difference in the price of chitterlings at the butcher shop or whiskey from the 'shiner. So who should give a fuck, especally since we can not comfortably exist in any of those places? All we get out of it in the short term is abstract knowledge, about as practical as swim trunks in the Sahara.
O' course in the long term, the technology will be adapted to the benefit of us all, as has already happened. And the studies of these bodies could/would help us to better understand the process' at work on our own planet.
But, as you say, what the fuck do you care......? Think about it some more; you should care a fucking lot.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 19:27:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
I am thinking: "What fuck do I care if you have or have not been to Saturn, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Titan, what fuck do I care if you have or have not hit a comet, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed a probe on Mars, what fuck do I care if you have or have not landed on the moon?"
Good questions, but it's obvious that you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be spending so much time here.
By the way, did Sputnik orbit Earth about 1,400 times? |
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Randy
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 20:10:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Good questions, but it's obvious that you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be spending so much time here.
By the way, did Sputnik orbit Earth about 1,400 times?
I think we're having an positive effect on him/her/it. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Jumbo
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Posted - 12/04/2005 : 05:16:29 [Permalink]
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 14:26:09 Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Scotty
I really don't suppose there's much point in reminding BB that the Black and white image he posted Is from the surface of Titan , how can you be sure BB , well the telemetry that included the image was sent from the Saturn space -the doppler shift of the signal was IMPOSSIBLE to fake ... OK BB how do you get a signal from Saturn without actually going there ....
This is a Big NASA Buffoons image
This is my image of Mars made by 3ds max7
What do you notice, little guy?
1 - My image is much better.
2 - That BNB have used the same texture of 3ds max.
Look at the two images carefully.
Without spending any money I have been on Mars too.
1.No its not. Yours is of lower resolution and IMHO not the same quality. (Btw did you forget to put stars in or were you going for a realistic image?)
2. Where exactly do you think the texture maps came from that ds has as stock ones? Im pretty sure more than a few. Likely this mars one are from the very sources you seem to have issues with |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 12/04/2005 : 13:39:04 [Permalink]
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If you don't admit this trajectory is a nonsense
what the fuck do I care?
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