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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 02/01/2006 : 04:39:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by byhisgrace88
Look...You shouldn't judge Christianity as a whole by some off the wall extremists who are not even using the Bible as there guide lines. I'm more than realistic enough to realize that there's some pretty loony "Christians" out there. But there are also some pretty wacky skeptics, and those are NOT the people that I look at to get my viewpoint of Skeptics as a whole. Please don't be naive enough to think that that brand of Christian is the mainstream. Don't let some crazy people, with crazier ideas be the represenative for me, and my fellow Christians.
Do you believe a man was crucified, died and was buried, and then came to life 3 days later? That's "crazy" enough for me.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2006 : 05:47:28 [Permalink]
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I've briefly scanned the Jesus Christ Saves Ministries site; most amusing. quote:
Look...You shouldn't judge Christianity as a whole by some off the wall extremists who are not even using the Bible as there guide lines. I'm more than realistic enough to realize that there's some pretty loony "Christians" out there. But there are also some pretty wacky skeptics, and those are NOT the people that I look at to get my viewpoint of Skeptics as a whole. Please don't be naive enough to think that that brand of Christian is the mainstream. Don't let some crazy people, with crazier ideas be the represenative for me, and my fellow Christians.
Agreein' with C'88, here. I would certainly never equate himself nor Hippy4christ, our sometime resident YECs, with the ilk of "God hates fags!" Phelps. Unless, of course, they lost their cool entirely..... It happens.
However, those in this alledged ministry are fair game for any sort of profane slander I care to lay on them. As are some of the more rabid Muslims -- the Taliban, for example, and I fail to precieve much difference between them.
And as for verso's rather disgusting example, well, that too, happens and can get the aforementioned pigfucker jailed if caught at it.
Porn in one form or another has existed since the dawn of sapience, as ancient, stone venus', rather plump ones I might add, attest. The only basic difference is in the sophistication.
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trogdor
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 02/01/2006 : 21:42:28 [Permalink]
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now, now, filthy no need to follow in the footsteps of bb and get yourself banned for posting porn!
go wash your typing fingers out with soap!! |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 00:25:34 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by byhisgrace88
Look...You shouldn't judge Christianity as a whole by some off the wall extremists who are not even using the Bible as there guide lines.
The problem isn't the extremists themselves... There are loons of every kind out there, and as long as they aren't organised, they can be ignored most of the time.
The problem is that "mainstream", "good", and "righteous" Christian congregations aren't taking a stand against them, not distancing themselves from the freaks.
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I'm more than realistic enough to realize that there's some pretty loony "Christians" out there. But there are also some pretty wacky skeptics, and those are NOT the people that I look at to get my viewpoint of Skeptics as a whole.
Part of being a skeptic includes being skeptical against other skeptics when those skeptics aren't skeptical enough.
When you read other threads here on SFN, you will see that we are perfectly capable of going after each-other.
And SFN has dished out to False Memory Syndrome advocates, including renown skeptic James Randy by association.
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Please don't be naive enough to think that that brand of Christian is the mainstream.
I'm not that naïve. I also recognise that not enough mainstream Christian congregations disavow Christian extremists, like thought-police Bill, homophobic Fred Phelps, or violent anti-abortion protesters.
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Don't let some crazy people, with crazier ideas be the representative for me, and my fellow Christians.
I have a grievance against Christians who preach, and want to force their religion on others, yet fail to live by the rules of faith they wish us non-saved would surrender ourselves to.
In the Bible, Jesus preaches that his followers should be examples to others, "let your love for each-other and God be their (non-believers) guiding light to salvation" (paraphrased, let me know if you agree or disagree with this).
This is something that the "bible-thumpers" has forgotten. And this is where organised religion come into play: Church-members are getting force-fed the minister's interpretation of the bible. If he's wrong in some aspect of the interpretation, then all the members are likely to incorporate the same error. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 06:52:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verso
I should also note that it's interesting no one seems upset that pornagraphers do this contantly. If you want to complain something, complain about the people pushing real moral filth into the faces of little kids.
"hey mom, what is that man doing to the little pig?"
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Some purveyors of porn do try to register common misspellings of common sites to increase traffic to them. In the US, however, the site must ensure that minors do not have access to such images. The trade is considered one of immorality. The advancement of Jesus is considered one of morality. Therefore, immoral industries acting in an immoral way is not surprising, but a moral undertaking acting in an immoral way is surprising and hypocritical.
And your attempt at an example is from an extremely rare subsection of pornography which has been made illegal by all advanced and most smaller nations. The sites are extremely rare. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 07:24:14 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by trogdor
now, now, filthy no need to follow in the footsteps of bb and get yourself banned for posting porn!
go wash your typing fingers out with soap!!
I've waited for years for an excuse to introduce the comely Ms. Willendorf! 
Of course, as it is prehistoric fetish porn, it has a historic value and therefore is no longer porn at all -- I learned that how to do that bob & weave & spin from the Republicans.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Sheri berri
New Member
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 19:34:54 [Permalink]
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I'm really not surprised though, more and more Christians are displaying moral bankruptcy. Disingenuous tricks, misrepresentations, and sometimes even bald-faced lies to sell a message they claim as Truth that should be able to stand on its own.
as quoted by Dr. Mabuse.
i agree in large part to your post, ReEligion should be able to stand on its own, Pimps for god IMO, How is the All that is in need of Public relations???? i also want to comment that the dysfunctional sexual expression that is rampant in society is in large part the teachings and influence of religon, "Sex is wrong Immoral unless you are married," How about the whole you need to deny your sexual nature ..remain a virgin until marriage.IMO this has breed more deviant beahvior than any ohter construct. The values of the bible are flawed at best and they are the problemm not the solution. Namaste Sheri |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2006 : 23:13:06 [Permalink]
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| Am I the only one here who fails to see how buying a similar URL to another site and then connecting it to its rivel isn't deception, but is, in fact, clever fair play? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 23:37:32 [Permalink]
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marfknox objected: quote:
Am I the only one here who fails to see how buying a similar URL to another site and then connecting it to its rivel isn't deception, but is, in fact, clever fair play?
It's the high moral tone used by these people, coupled with their real-world cheap-trick hypocrisy, that sets people to wagging fingers at them.
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