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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/03/2006 :  20:00:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Pernicious

So, the Jews let 6 million of their own be slaughtered in order to to establish Israel??
I think it's worse than Holocaust denial, since the population of Israel right now is just over six million, and there are only about 14.5 million Jews worldwide. The Jews would have had to "allow" a majority of their number to die in the Holocaust in order to establish Israel.

But, I just found this nifty piece, with a whole section on the Freemasons:
In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler writes that Freemasonry has "succumbed" to the Jews and has become an "excellent instrument" to fight for their aims and to use their "strings" to pull the upper strata of society into their alleged designs...

In 1933 Hermann Goering; Reichstag President and one of the key figures in the process of Gleichschaltung, (literally synchronization), states "..in National Socialist Germany, there is no place for Freemasonry."

...Freemasonic Concentration Camp inmates were graded as “Political” prisoners, and wore an inverted, (point down), red triangle.

On August 8, 1935, as Führer and Chancellor, Adolf Hitler announced in the Nazi Party newspaper, Völkischer Beobachter, the final dissolution of all Masonic Lodges in Germany. The article accused a conspiracy of the Fraternity and “World Jewry” of seeking to create a “World Republic”.

Estimates calculate that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons died...
So, I missed out on the connection between NWO paranoia and Nazis until just now. How the hell did that elude me?

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Pernicious
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Posted - 06/03/2006 :  20:21:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Pernicious a Private Message

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I don't know how many of you have actually talked with a real Nazi. It's actually a very chilling experience. You need to go face to face with one to understand at a gut level something of the hateful deliberate madness that drives them. They respect only one thing: Force. Ultimately, we have to defend our values, and be ready with force to protect them.

When you "chat" with a Nazi, you get the feeling that he is grinning inside, knowing that while you talk, you are not arming yourself.




Perhaps we're sliding way off topic, but how did you come to meet a Nazi? I'm guessing this was several years ago?

If I was the Supreme Being, I wouldn't muck about with butterflies and dandelions, I'd start with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 06/03/2006 :  20:42:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
So, I missed out on the connection between NWO paranoia and Nazis until just now. How the hell did that elude me?


But that's just it with verlch and his conspiracy delusions-- there's no consistancy. Indeed-- we can imagine that he just puts the various groups (Masons, Nazis, feminists, Jews, communists, humanists, etc.) in a hat and draws them out right before he begins a screed.

If doesn't matter who they are or what their actual histories say. It just matters that there are some groups conspiring against verlch and his ultimate enjoyment of life.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/03/2006 :  21:14:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
No, Cune, my comment was only about how after reading the bit about Hilter and Freemasonry, I looked back on what I knew about the NWO conspiracy kooks and realized that not a few of them are, indeed, either White Supremists and/or anti-Semites. The bit about Hitler outlawing Freemasonry just put it all together for me.

verlch didn't actually have much to do with that comment, though if I had more time right now, I might go searching to see if he'd ever mentioned The Protocols of the Elders of Zion here before (I can't remember). The only thing that's inconsistent about it all is that verlch probably has big issues with Hitler's Catholicism, but I also can't remember if verlch is one of the creationists here who've tried the "Hitler was an atheist and the Holocaust was a direct result of Darwinism" bit on us (which would itself be inconsistent with the "Jews manufactured the Holocaust in order to create Israel" schpiel).

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 06/03/2006 :  21:17:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Pernicious


quote:
I don't know how many of you have actually talked with a real Nazi. It's actually a very chilling experience. You need to go face to face with one to understand at a gut level something of the hateful deliberate madness that drives them. They respect only one thing: Force. Ultimately, we have to defend our values, and be ready with force to protect them.

When you "chat" with a Nazi, you get the feeling that he is grinning inside, knowing that while you talk, you are not arming yourself.

Perhaps we're sliding way off topic, but how did you come to meet a Nazi? I'm guessing this was several years ago?

I'm sure that verlch will forgive this slight digression.

It was about fifteen years ago. The old Nazi was named Fred. As a teenager, he was in the Hitler Youth, and helped crew an anti-aircraft gun in Hamburg. He proudly mentioned that he once stood within arm's reach of Adolf Hitler, as Hitler walked by during a parade.

Fred was a friend of my ex-wife. Oddly enough, he got to know her and her friends when he helped free them from slavery. My ex-wife and others she was with were illegal Filipino immigrants, forced to work in the US for pennies for a rich Filipino couple in the garment industry. The only time they were out of the direct control of that couple was when they attended church. Fred set up an operation where they all walked out of the church at once, into his waiting van. All are now legal citizens. He later married one of the women. So Fred is a guy who is paradoxically capable of great deeds, even for people not of his racial type, but believe me, he harbors all that old Nazi ideology, too.




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/03/2006 21:20:28
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  22:07:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Dave W. asked: "So, I missed out on the connection between NWO paranoia and Nazis until just now. How the hell did that elude me?"

I don't know about you, but when I first started reading the present rant by verlch, my memory flashed back to one of my conversations with that old Nazi I knew, Fred, and Fred's surprisingly hateful comments about Freemasonry. I hadn't even known about the Nazi hatred of Masons until I first heard it from Fred.

Verlch is one sick, disgusting, fascist puppy, to be eating up and regurgitating Nazi shit like that, along with a rotten, heavy dose of anti-Semitic feces. I wasn't just joking or exaggerating when I made the Nazi connection. If his ideology is indistinguishable from that of a Nazi, in my book, he's a damned Nazi himself.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  23:38:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Dave, on a side note, I thank you very much for dredging up verlch's old "Things get fugly" thread from the Archives of Oblivion and publishing its link in the new Skeptic Summary. This gives me a historical perspective on the fellow that I was lacking. It's a mixed blessing to see that he hasn't just gone really crazy recently. To risk an oxymoron, he seems to be quite stable over time in his emotional instability. The only way the expression of his so-called thoughts could get slightly less intelligible is if he simply started punching his keyboard with his fists or face.

Poor, benighted Nazi bastard. (Him, not you.)


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/03/2006 23:44:12
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Canada
510 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  23:49:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
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Originally posted by HalfMooner



In this chilling series of images, we see the First SS (Shriner Special) Motorized Regiment, soon after the NWO's Masonic Army conquered Wichita, Kansas.






I noticed one of the Shriners was dirving a Messerschmidt Bubble Car (The red 3 wheeler with the open front door). This vehicle is powered by a 2 stroke engine and has no reverse gear. To back up the engine is simply started in the opposite direction. This gives this vehicle the capbability of traveling as fast backwards as forwards. I am sure this has some terrible conspiratorial significance.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
Edited by - Ghost_Skeptic on 06/04/2006 00:06:07
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Chippewa
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USA
1496 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2006 :  00:21:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Shocktroops of the New World Order, victorious Masons march arrogantly through Savannah, Georgia


Commanded by their Exalted Leader

*Post edited due to original posted picture being blocked by the Leader.

Edited by - Chippewa on 06/05/2006 00:24:10
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2006 :  00:48:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message


Masonic Fifteenth Panzer Division troopers riding
Blitz-Mowers mock their stunned new subjects in South Carolina.



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/04/2006 21:40:37
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 06/04/2006 :  01:17:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message

Shriner's Parade in Los Angeles, ca.1901

The Shriner branch of the Masons have always specialized in using costume and silly vehicles as part of their psychological warfare apparatus. While you're laughing at their threads and rides, their Masonic brothers are out raping your wives and daughters. (Notice the distracted fool on the far right.)



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Canada
510 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2006 :  22:46:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
That has to be the most appropriate reply to Verminlch - a bunch of silly pictures of Shriners.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
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verlch
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Posted - 06/04/2006 :  23:41:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Dave W. asked: "So, I missed out on the connection between NWO paranoia and Nazis until just now. How the hell did that elude me?"

I don't know about you, but when I first started reading the present rant by verlch, my memory flashed back to one of my conversations with that old Nazi I knew, Fred, and Fred's surprisingly hateful comments about Freemasonry. I hadn't even known about the Nazi hatred of Masons until I first heard it from Fred.

Verlch is one sick, disgusting, fascist puppy, to be eating up and regurgitating Nazi shit like that, along with a rotten, heavy dose of anti-Semitic feces. I wasn't just joking or exaggerating when I made the Nazi connection. If his ideology is indistinguishable from that of a Nazi, in my book, he's a damned Nazi himself.





Before you drown yourself with the other fifth of jet fuel you just choked on. My wife happens to be Jewish, as well as my mother being part one.

So let's not get carried away.

As far as I'm concerned the world power is Satanic, no matter which secret organization runs it. The Illuminati is the head of all the organizations, and trying to accomplish their goal of a one world government.

The Catholics have been infiltrated, if you remember the poisoning of John Paul the I within 30 days of his becoming Pope and his assassin confessed to a KGB conspiracy.

You guys need to pull the bags off your heads, and read something besides watching TV!!!!

http://www.planetquo.com/The-United-Nations-Agents-Of-Globalism

Here the UN is going wild with their anti American rhetoric.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 06/04/2006 :  23:44:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
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Originally posted by HalfMooner

Dave, on a side note, I thank you very much for dredging up verlch's old "Things get fugly" thread from the Archives of Oblivion and publishing its link in the new Skeptic Summary. This gives me a historical perspective on the fellow that I was lacking. It's a mixed blessing to see that he hasn't just gone really crazy recently. To risk an oxymoron, he seems to be quite stable over time in his emotional instability. The only way the expression of his so-called thoughts could get slightly less intelligible is if he simply started punching his keyboard with his fists or face.

Poor, benighted Nazi bastard. (Him, not you.)





And what's the secret hand shake pal? Oh you can't tell me because you will get buried in the sand at low tide.



By the way how old are you?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  00:08:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
verlch ejaculated:
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Before you drown yourself with the other fifth of jet fuel you just choked on. My wife happens to be Jewish, as well as my mother being part one.

So let's not get carried away.

(Yeah, and all my best friends are psychotic fundie Nazi conspiracy buffs.) Say again? Who is getting "carried away"? Who, if not you, wrote this load of anti-Semitism?:
quote:
It's my understanding that the Jewish World Congress knew what Hitler, Himmler, Eichmann were up too, and could have gotten all the Jews out of harms way, as they had enough money.

I believe the Holocaust was another terrorist attack on humanity, which in one foul swoop gave rise to the Jewish state, without the holocaust, no state of Israel. How else would you get the Jews to move there? To reestablish a country that had disappeared for 2,000 years, and still speaking their native language.
Or this?:
quote:
Lenin was a Jewish Freemason.
Do you actually talk about this kind of Nazi crap with your Jewish wife, or your "part one" mother? What do they have to say in return? You must have some interesting relationships, to put it in the mildest of terms.

Just how do you happen to share the oddly combined Freemasony/Jewry hatred with Adolf Hitler? Have you possibly read, say, Mein Kampf, then said to yourself, "I read what I did and I liked it"?



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