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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  00:16:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
verlch asked:
quote:

And what's the secret hand shake pal? Oh you can't tell me because you will get buried in the sand at low tide.



By the way how old are you?
It's none of your business, you crazy Nazi bastard. But I'll tell you anyway.

I have no idea what the Masonic secret handshake is, because I'm not a Mason. My uncle, my Dad tells me, was a Master Mason, but he died when I was still an infant. I would not personally join such a fraternity, because they require a belief in a Creator, something I do not accept. (I'm also not a big fan of rituals in general, as they seem silly to me and remind me of obsessive-compulsive behavior.)

And I'm sixty years old. Wanna make something of it, punk?



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2006 :  03:55:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
verlch isn't really worth responding to.

Even if he isn't a nazi (something you will note he still didn't deny, he just claimed his wife was jewish instead), he IS a crazy, perverted, mentally unstable, homophobic, fundie woman hater.

He truly believes that the "illuminati" are real, and out to destroy his personal brand of bat-shit-crazy fundaMENTAList christianity.

de-lu-sion-al has his picture next to it in some dictionaries.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4954 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2006 :  05:45:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Before you drown yourself with the other fifth of jet fuel you just choked on. My wife happens to be Jewish, as well as my mother being part one.


Wait-- you've tied the knot again? How is she liking being treated like a slave?

And how does she feel about that fact that you hate Jews?
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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2006 :  07:23:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
One phrase:

Laughing my ass off.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  09:46:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
I doubt that Verlch really is anti-Semitic. I don't think his bias allows him to consider the implications of what he is saying. His anti-Semitic remarks stem from his willingness to believe any speculations that might confirm the existence of an Illuminati ruling the world. He doesn't see it as Jew hating. That would imply that he actually put two and two together and realized what he was saying. And since so far on these boards, he has never done that, why should we assume that he is doing it now?

Ultimately, I think Verch is a pretty simple guy, who like many of the simple guys I meet on job sites, lacks the tools to seriously evaluate the evidence for any of his beliefs. That Verlch is willing to shout his nonsense from the rooftops and on these pages is probably a symptom of his having a pretty serious inferiority complex. But I dunno, not being a shrink and all. In any case, I think some of us might have a tendency to give Verch way too much credit for what comes out of his mouth.

He is a guy, who like many others, is not comfortable with the complexity of life. He requires simple and pat answers, and like most conspiracy advocates, finds solace by reclaiming the power that he feels has been stolen from him by forces unknown. By assigning to a greater power, whether it be God or the Illuminati, control over the world, he simplifies all complexity to easy to understand answers. In that way, he can organize his thoughts about life into a few uncomplicated (even in there complexity) truths…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2006 :  11:55:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Genetic science.
What did you say?
Genetic science.
What did you say?
Genetic science.

What did you say?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2006 :  14:16:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Personally, I'll go with my idea that if someone's ideology is indistinguishable from Nazism, he's a Nazi. His "Freemasonry-World Jewry" connection seems to spring directly from Mein Kampf, and in my opinion, the statements he made about Jews that I pointed to above do stoop to the level of anti-Semitism. And especially since he has made no effort to directly deny the accusation, I'm holding to it.

Having a Jewish spouse, or even Jewish ancestry, is no guarantee a person is tolerant toward Jews. Sadly, self-hatred sometimes comes into play. The man who killed American Nazi Party boss George Lincoln Rockwell was himself both a zealous member of that Party, and a Jew. There were one or two men of partial Jewish ancestry high in Hitler's Nazi Party, too. Convenient exceptions were made for them. It has been suggested, probably without good evidence, that Hitler himself may have had Jewish ancestors.

BTW, this was the first time I was ever "accused" of being a Mason. I suppose the implication that I'm a Mason, in his paranoid ignorance, carries a lot of negative emotional weight for verlch, but I was somewhat flattered. (I'd have been equally flattered to have been "accused" of being a Jew.)

The Masons have literally worked for centuries for separation of church and state, and support strong and secular public education. Through the Shriners, they have helped uncounted thousands of crippled children at absolutely no charge, in their first-rate Shriners Hospitals. I know one woman who would have been crippled as an adult, had her spine not been straightened by the Shriners Hospital in San Francisco.

There are far worse things to be accused of, other than being a Mason.

[Edited to add the second paragraph.]



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/05/2006 14:58:38
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  20:26:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I just saw this Simpson's episode and felt this quite appropriate:

quote:
Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do

Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do

Who holds back the elctric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do, we do

Who robs gamefish of their site?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do, we do!



by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2006 :  23:07:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

I just saw this Simpson's episode and felt this quite appropriate:

quote:
Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do

Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do

Who holds back the elctric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do, we do

Who robs gamefish of their site?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do, we do!




Ah, the "Stonecutters"! Wonderful episode. One part I recall is that in Stonecutters gatherings, the moronic Lenny gets to totally abuse his real-life boss, Montgomery Burns, because he outranks him in the Stonecutters.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  02:10:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Being one of those who would quite cheerfully smear rib grease and sauce upon the Sacred Parchment, I too liked the Stonecutters.

But lets get one thing straight: it makes not the least bit of difference to the ToE if Darwin's entire family, including himself, were Masons or Klansmen or Nazis or Republicans, or whelped by Ecentricia Gallumbits, the Triple-Breasted Whore of Erotica 5. It is still correct and the only thing that will change that is some very strong, empirical evidence; not mere verbiage, however strident it might be.






"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  06:29:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Filthy observed:
quote:
But lets get one thing straight: it makes not the least bit of difference to the ToE if Darwin's entire family, including himself, were Masons or Klansmen or Nazis or Republicans, or whelped by Ecentricia Gallumbits, the Triple-Breasted Whore of Erotica 5. It is still correct and the only thing that will change that is some very strong, empirical evidence; not mere verbiage, however strident it might be."
Indeed, and even the fact that Charles Darwin was a lifetime, devout Christian does nothing to diminish the wonderful discovery he made.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  11:17:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Illuminati? I thought it was the Trilateral Commission. Darn!

Of course if you are Ann Coulter, the fact both groups consist of white men means we have nothing to be worried about. "When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages." - [2], 16 August, 2004"
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13458 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  11:50:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

Illuminati? I thought it was the Trilateral Commission. Darn!

Of course if you are Ann Coulter, the fact both groups consist of white men means we have nothing to be worried about. "When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages." - [2], 16 August, 2004"

Someone should put Ann Coulter out of our misery...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  11:51:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

Illuminati? I thought it was the Trilateral Commission. Darn!

Of course if you are Ann Coulter, the fact both groups consist of white men means we have nothing to be worried about. "When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages." - [2], 16 August, 2004"

Hmph. I didn't know that someone had dedicated a page to quoting that glorified lot-lizard.

Thanks for the link, though. I'll skip Coulter's stuck-needle blather and check out the rest of the site. Looks pretty good.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2006 :  12:18:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

Illuminati? I thought it was the Trilateral Commission. Darn!

Of course if you are Ann Coulter, the fact both groups consist of white men means we have nothing to be worried about. "When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages." - [2], 16 August, 2004"

Hmph. I didn't know that someone had dedicated a page to quoting that glorified lot-lizard.

Thanks for the link, though. I'll skip Coulter's stuck-needle blather and check out the rest of the site. Looks pretty good.







Now, Filth. You've just insulted all the rentable female escorts for Truckers out there.


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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