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 walt fristoe 
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 Posted - 06/28/2006 :  19:49:19
  
 
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 I'm sure there's a matematical trick to this, having to do I think with the number 9, but I can't quite seem to pin down the details. I know that when the two digits are added together, and then subtracted from the original number, the result will always be divisible by 9. But how does the particular number match the symbol?
 
 
  [edit:]  Silly me, I forgot to include the link! Here it is: http://www.milaadesign.com/wizardy.html [/edit]
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 Posted - 06/28/2006 :  19:57:51   [Permalink]
  
  
  
  
                 
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 quote: Originally posted by walt fristoe
  I'm sure there's a matematical trick to this, having to do I think with the number 9, but I can't quite seem to pin down the details. I know that when the two digits are added together, and then subtracted from the original number, the result will always be divisible by 9. But how does the particular number match the symbol?
 
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 Posted - 06/28/2006 :  21:24:29   [Permalink]
  
                 
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 Thinking a bit I came up with: For any 2 digit number, if you add the digits and subtract the result from the original number, the result is always divisible by 9.
  10 - 1 = 9
  27 - 9 = 18
  71 - 8 = 63
  For any 2 digit number, let us represent the number value by x and y respectivly.
  Thus the actual number is 10x + y. eg 23 = 2*10 + 3
  Our equation is thus 
  10x + y - (x + y) = 10x -x + y - y = 9x
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 Posted - 06/28/2006 :  21:42:23   [Permalink]
  
  
  
  
  
                 
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|  That's absolutely right.  Questions like this are part of a branch of mathematics called Number Theory.  Absolutely interesting stuff and it all is basic arithmetic give or take modulus.  RSA Encryption is actually something I was shown how to do in Number Theory.  It's actually really smart, and only really breakable by a brute force, try every possibility til it works way.  Use a couple of 11 digit prime numbers as the basis for the encryption and we're talking significant computer time to break. | 
 
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 Posted - 06/29/2006 :  07:18:32   [Permalink]
  
  
                 
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  I believe I know the trick you're talking about.  Look at each multiple of nine.  They will all have the same symbol.  So when you follow the steps, you always end up with a multiple of nine, and thus, always get the same symbol for no matter what number you choose.. 
   Right, and each time you do it again the symbol changes so it takes longer to see the pattern.
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 Posted - 06/29/2006 :  07:27:57   [Permalink]
  
  
                 
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 Here are links to a couple I've used on my kids: Crystal Ball and Sprite
 
 
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 Posted - 06/29/2006 :  08:02:16   [Permalink]
  
  
                 
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 quote: Originally posted by Dave W.
  Here's a link to one of them.
 
  
  That's the link I was looking for!  Didn't we have a thread on that one, Dave W.?  I can't find it, but I'm sure I remember it. | 
 
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 Posted - 06/29/2006 :  15:11:11   [Permalink]
  
                 
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 quote: Originally posted by Dave W.
  Here's a link to one of them.
 
  
  That's very much like the one I meant to post, just a different look.
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 Posted - 06/30/2006 :  08:25:49   [Permalink]
  
  
                 
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 D'oh!  No wonder this seemed so familiar. Damn, I'm getting old!
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 Posted - 07/02/2006 :  20:02:03   [Permalink]
  
                 
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