Skeptic Friends Network

Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?
Home | Forums | Active Topics | Active Polls | Register | FAQ | Contact Us  
  Connect: Chat | SFN Messenger | Buddy List | Members
Personalize: Profile | My Page | Forum Bookmarks  
 All Forums
 Our Skeptic Forums
 Religion
 The Despised Hero
 New Topic  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly Bookmark this Topic BookMark Topic
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  14:16:30  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Didn't know the name. Another unsung hero that theists and nontheists alike would like to shut up.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061027/news_lz1e27taylor.html
quote:

When Phil Paulson died Wednesday, San Diego lost one of her greatest heroes. It also lost her most despised citizen. Paulson was a man who didn't believe in God. Neither did more others than will admit to it. Paulson admitted it and stood up for all of us whether we came out of the closet with our secret or not.

We atheists aren't popular in this country. The constitutions of seven states – Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee – prohibit us from holding any statewide office. Of course it's unconstitutional, but it's there, perhaps as a reminder of our place in the hearts of our countrymen.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter




Edited by - Gorgo on 11/03/2006 14:18:41

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  17:18:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Damn! From the article:
quote:
Of course Paulson had lots of practice at facing down dogma. When he was a child, he asked one question too many in his Lutheran catechism class. “If God created us, who created God?” That's been a question of philosophers and theologians for centuries, but this time it came from a child! The pastor of his parish dragged him from the classroom by the ear. He then called his mom who further punished him and made him pray on his knees every night for forgiveness and enlightenment for two weeks.
That was a pretty good question, especially coming from a kid. Of course, the only real answer he got was abusive force.

But let's look at that question, spinning it through the "logic" of Intelligent Design.

“If God created us, who created God?” Hmmm...

Clearly, if mere pond slime, slouching beasts, and much loftier humans are "irreducibly complex," then mighty Jehovah, Lord of Creation, must be even more complex and irreducible. This demands that He must have been created by a Super-God some unknown, but not necessesarily supernatural, super-intelligent design force/being/process. Though we may not be able to quantify or scientifically study this force/being/process, this is all obviously really scientific-y stuff. But we must never (for legal reasons) refer to it as Super-God.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Go to Top of Page

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  17:24:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I'm curious, Gorgo: Why would nontheists have wanted to shut Paulson up?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Go to Top of Page

Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  18:11:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Many atheists don't particularly like people who rock the boat. They distrust people like Newdow and Paulson and say that a lot of these fights are not important. Or at least that's my impression.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 11/03/2006 18:13:06
Go to Top of Page

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  19:07:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Well, I admit I don't scream out my atheism in public, usually. But I sure appreciate those with the courage do do so, especially when they do it with class like Paulson did. I can't speak for others.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Go to Top of Page

Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2006 :  02:38:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
It would probably be best if I didn't, either.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly Bookmark this Topic BookMark Topic
Jump To:

The mission of the Skeptic Friends Network is to promote skepticism, critical thinking, science and logic as the best methods for evaluating all claims of fact, and we invite active participation by our members to create a skeptical community with a wide variety of viewpoints and expertise.


Home | Skeptic Forums | Skeptic Summary | The Kil Report | Creation/Evolution | Rationally Speaking | Skeptillaneous | About Skepticism | Fan Mail | Claims List | Calendar & Events | Skeptic Links | Book Reviews | Gift Shop | SFN on Facebook | Staff | Contact Us

Skeptic Friends Network
© 2008 Skeptic Friends Network Go To Top Of Page
This page was generated in 0.11 seconds.
Powered by @tomic Studio
Snitz Forums 2000