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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/27/2006 :  13:42:51  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
It happened on an episode of the "Hellbound Allee" internet radio show.

You can read about it on their boards.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2006 :  15:02:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Alright! So, we're winning at last. One down, and just 1,562,662 (described) species to go.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 12/27/2006 15:08:34
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 12/28/2006 :  22:05:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
I was doing some searches for the audio and found this podcast.

On that page is well is the following description:

quote:
Every atheist loudmouth has a dream--the dream of putting a tired, dog-eared Christian Apologetic argument to rest. That dream came true for me on our show 103: Going Bananas with Ray Comfort.I know, I know--anyone's kid or dog could have refuted the Banana Argument. But not everyone's kid could get Ray Comfort to say to him, "okay, okay, you can have the banana." You can have the banana. Music to my ears. I now claim the banana in the name of atheism, and especially in the name of Hellbound Alleee. If any Christian tries to refute evolution by telling you that the banana fits perfectly in the human mouth, you send them to me. Because the banana argument is dead. Celebrate with your friends by slicing up a bunch! Chill them in a pie, put them in your cornflakes, mash them for your baby, or blend them in your smoothie. It does not matter, because the banana belongs to US.



Which I found quite shocking. It is typical to argue that evolution is an atheistic theory. Of course, most agree that this is in fact bunk. But from the writing above, it seems as if this atheist agrees.

Have they been successful into making it second nature that evolution and atheism go hand in hand? Or am I reading too much into this?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 12/28/2006 :  22:54:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
It is typical to argue that evolution is an atheistic theory. Of course, most agree that this is in fact bunk. But from the writing above, it seems as if this atheist agrees.

Have they been successful into making it second nature that evolution and atheism go hand in hand? Or am I reading too much into this?

I don't think it's that evolution is inherently atheistic as it is creationism is (mostly) inherently christian, or at least one form of it. For all intents and purposes, creationist apolegetics is christian apologetics. Crazy fundy christian apologetics, but christian nonetheless.

And while I suppose it's possible for an atheist to reject the theory of evolution, I've never met one who has. Evolution isn't an atheistic theory, but most atheists accept evolution.

However, I agree that saying "I now claim the banana in the name of atheism" was taking credit for more than can be supported.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 12/28/2006 22:56:59
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  01:11:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
It could as justifiably be said that atheism belongs to bananas, but that wouldn't sound as good.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  03:47:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

However, I agree that saying "I now claim the banana in the name of atheism" was taking credit for more than can be supported.


But it did give me a chuckle...

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  03:58:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

However, I agree that saying "I now claim the banana in the name of atheism" was taking credit for more than can be supported.


But it did give me a chuckle...

Me, too. I hereby claim the banana in the name of Humanity in General. Let the monkeys try to get it back.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Denwash
New Member

USA
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  09:05:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Denwash a Private Message
There you go Halfmooner - it's people like you who give Skeptics a bad name. We gain an inch (or a fruit), and you decide to declare INTERSPECIES WAR!!! HAVEN"T YOU SEEN PLANET OF THE APES?!?! I for one feel that there are more than enough bananas to share with our primate friends. Even if the primates don't eventually evolve into bigger more intelligent versions of themselves with guns, I for one don't want to have feces thrown at me.
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