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marduk
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  02:22:41  Show Profile  Send marduk a Yahoo! Message Send marduk a Private Message
I have long been a big fan of Zechariah Sitchin
i think his books make the history of Sumer accessible for so many people who don't know how to read plain english at credible free sites like this

http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/edition2/etcslbynumb.php
and this
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/index.html
and this
http://www.etana.org/
and this
http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/chron00.html
and this
http://www.mythome.org/mideastg.html
and this
http://the.iraq.museum/
and this
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htm
and this
http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
and this
http://www.sumerian.org/
and this
http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/RA/Research_Arch.html
and this
http://www.pantheon.org/
and this
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchiniswrongcontentpage.htm

clearly with so many properly researched and credible sites available the benefit of reading the writings of a man who actually trained as an economist and who holds no historical or linguistic qualifications whatsoever must be overwhelmingly beneficial

the way he blends together Sumerian gods from 3500bce with akkadian gods from 2000bce with babylonian deities from 1000bce has always been for me the ultimate proof that for that to happen they must either have all been aliens or had access to some form of time travel technology
either that or Mr Sitchin got it wrong
and that of course is just impossible
obviously i realise that he has now revised the date of Nibirus return twice when it failed to show up but seeing as his bad heart condition diagnosis meant that he wasn't expected to live long enough to see it anyway must have caused him to forget to carry the one a few times, remember he never claimed to be a mathematician so i think thats just an oversight on his part and instantly forgivable

it all started when he discovered this cylinder seal at a berlin museum
its catalogued as VA243


now i realise of course that orthodox trained and qualified sumerologists to a man all say that this shows the Akitu festival which happened twice a year,
the first time being during the ancient world new year when the pleaides was in ascendence and which the sumerians used as a new year marker
and the second time being during the month of GIRTAB (scorpio) 6 months later
of course if that were the case then theyd be able to produce a very similar cylinder seal that has a scorpion in the same pllace that VA243 has twelve planets wouldn't they
and their claim that it shows the pleaides which the sumerians called MUL.MUL (star and stars) bears some consideration but i prefer the idea that it correctly shows the twelve planets in our solar system much better
and yes before anyone says anything i realise that officially there are now only 8 extra solar planets in our system since we just lost pluto but the Annunaki spacemen who actually flew past it must have known better so we'll have to take their word for it as translated by Zechariah. the orthodox sumerologists can't even spell Nibiru anyway. for some reason they spell it Neberu and claim it was a word that meant quay, port; crossing or ford and not a planet on a highly eliptical 3600 year orbit so what do they know eh
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/epsd/e148.html
but having done a little research myself i have discovered something that mr Sitchin has missed
here is a cylinder seal that i found that shows another extra planet in our solar system
its just as valid as saying that VA243 shows twelve planets

as you can see it shows a huge scorpion shaped planet that can only be on an even more highly eliptical orbit than Nibiru or else Mr Sitchin would have discovered it long ago and been sure to mention it to his loyal fans the sitchenites already
because I can see no reason why he wouldn't mention it, can you


HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  02:31:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Oh, no, not this stuff!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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marduk
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United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  03:08:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send marduk a Yahoo! Message Send marduk a Private Message
just for you in case you missed it halfmooner
http://www.langust.ru/review/xeno-br6.shtml
;)

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Chippewa
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  03:24:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  03:56:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk

just for you in case you missed it halfmooner
http://www.langust.ru/review/xeno-br6.shtml
;)

Well, this certainly must be deeper stuff than my own miserable brand of low comedy.


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tomk80
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Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  07:01:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk
clearly with so many properly researched and credible sites available the benefit of reading the writings of a man who actually trained as an economist and who holds no historical or linguistic qualifications whatsoever must be overwhelmingly beneficial


Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  08:34:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk

and that of course is just impossible
Oh, man, that's the good stuff, right there.


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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:25:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk

I have long been a big fan of Zechariah Sitchin
i think his books make the history of Sumer accessible for so many people who don't know how to read plain english at credible free sites like this
and this
http://www.sumerian.org/
Just as an FYI, I don't know Halloran personally-- and he may be a nice guy-- but some of his stuff is a little whacky. Not aliens-using-humans-as-slaves-to-mine-for-gold whacky, but whacky nonetheless.
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marduk
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United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:44:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send marduk a Yahoo! Message Send marduk a Private Message
I agree
but if you were to draw a line and place those sites for people wanting to know the reality on one side and those wishing to carry on believing aliens did it on the other where would you place him ?

I once e mailed him and asked him to identify a glyph for me
he sent me a link to epsd
hehe

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:59:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk

I agree
but if you were to draw a line and place those sites for people wanting to know the reality on one side and those wishing to carry on believing aliens did it on the other where would you place him ?
Well, it depends. In general, of course, Halloran is fine. But if a new grad student were exploring some of the nuances of Sumerian, or if an expert in lingrustics were exploring language isolates or some such, I'd definitely have them steer clear of Halloran's stuff.
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marduk
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United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  12:25:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send marduk a Yahoo! Message Send marduk a Private Message
quote:
an expert in lingrustics

I think an expert in lingrustics would have his own sources eh

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  12:26:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by marduk

quote:
an expert in lingrustics

I think an expert in lingrustics would have his own sources eh


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marduk
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United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  12:30:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send marduk a Yahoo! Message Send marduk a Private Message

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