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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  16:34:27  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Great fun.

You'll probably like how he gets applauded for some smacking down of Falwell's stooges:

quote:
Many of the questioners announced themselves as either students or faculty from Liberty, rather than from Randolph Macon which was my host institution. One by one they tried to trip me up, and one by one their failure to do so was applauded by the audience. Finally, I said that my advice to all Liberty students was to resign immediately and apply to a proper university instead. That received thunderous applause, so that I almost began to feel slightly sorry for the Liberty people. Only almost and only slightly, however."

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  19:34:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
I've seen that clip 3 times now already and keep going back to it. It's Dawkins at his best, in my opinion. Witty, provocative, but never really rude.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  22:58:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80 on Dawkins

Witty, provocative, but never really rude.
My opinion exactly. Reality can be harsh sometimes but it is never rude.

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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tomk80
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Posted - 01/28/2007 :  05:49:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
I also like his manner of understatement sometimes. Like when he is talking about how thinking the earth is 6000 years old means you are off by a factor of one million. Dawkins: "That is not a trivial error." I nearly spilt my beer when he said that.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Kil
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Posted - 01/28/2007 :  08:29:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks!

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Vegeta
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/28/2007 :  10:46:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message
good talk, but preaching to the choir

What are you looking at? Haven't you ever seen a pink shirt before?

"I was asked if I would do a similar sketch but focusing on the shortcomings of Islam rather than Christianity. I said, 'No, no I wouldn't. I may be an atheist but I'm not stupid.'" - Steward Lee
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Kil
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Posted - 01/28/2007 :  10:50:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta

good talk, but preaching to the choir

I don't think the people who challenged him from Liberty were exactly the choir. And they asked the most questions…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Vegeta
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/28/2007 :  11:35:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message
ok, my bad. only watched the first clip

What are you looking at? Haven't you ever seen a pink shirt before?

"I was asked if I would do a similar sketch but focusing on the shortcomings of Islam rather than Christianity. I said, 'No, no I wouldn't. I may be an atheist but I'm not stupid.'" - Steward Lee
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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/29/2007 :  19:19:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Well, now it seems that Ham is going after him...
quote:
We've warned you about them before on our website—but now they're on a much more aggressive march all across America. No longer are they just staying in their classrooms or writing books and articles in the comfort of their offices. They are “the new atheists,” and they are aggressively going after your children, your liberties, and your faith!


[bunch more crap]...As we begin this new year, I ask you to consider what you might do to partner with us. The website and future museum are wonderful ways we can counter the atheists' message of meaninglessness and hopelessness—and offer the precious gospel instead. We're making great progress, but still need funding to make this happen. If our website has blessed you, I ask for your prayerful consideration of a gift to help us finish the museum this spring.


You know, Ham should really compare how Dawkins acts, with how his fellow AIG people, like John Sarfati acts! Just do a search on the AIG site for his articles, and see how he tears off atheists!

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 01/29/2007 :  20:12:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
quote:


The website and future museum are wonderful ways we can counter the atheists' message of meaninglessness and hopelessness—and offer the precious gospel instead. We're making great progress, but still need funding to make this happen.


Loose Translation:

"Quick, look away! Science and reality are scary and cold. Our message, although total bullshit, is happy and light (except for the part where you fear for your eternal soul when you have even the slightest natural thought, lust, desire, or sense of self preservation). We don't pay attention to that fancy book learning or evidence based thinking, but ignoring reality cost money so every penny helps (expecially when those evil atheist have all of the other advantages but numbers and funds, like reason, logic, evidence, and even reality itself.) "

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
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Vegeta
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/27/2007 :  13:47:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message
i watched every video from those sites i could find. GOod stuff thanks!.....any more??

Ooops by 'those sites' I mean the one's people posted in this topic too...

http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7509

What are you looking at? Haven't you ever seen a pink shirt before?

"I was asked if I would do a similar sketch but focusing on the shortcomings of Islam rather than Christianity. I said, 'No, no I wouldn't. I may be an atheist but I'm not stupid.'" - Steward Lee
Edited by - Vegeta on 02/27/2007 13:49:18
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Neurosis
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Posted - 02/27/2007 :  16:28:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
Great Vegeta! Now your well on your way to becoming a Super Sagan. <Mr. Belding laugh>

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
Edited by - Neurosis on 02/27/2007 16:29:29
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 02/27/2007 :  18:03:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis

quote:


The website and future museum are wonderful ways we can counter the atheists' message of meaninglessness and hopelessness—and offer the precious gospel instead. We're making great progress, but still need funding to make this happen.


Loose Translation:

"Quick, look away! Science and reality are scary and cold. Our message, although total bullshit, is happy and light (except for the part where you fear for your eternal soul when you have even the slightest natural thought, lust, desire, or sense of self preservation). We don't pay attention to that fancy book learning or evidence based thinking, but ignoring reality cost money so every penny helps (expecially when those evil atheist have all of the other advantages but numbers and funds, like reason, logic, evidence, and even reality itself.) "

Tight Translation: Look over here and send money! Our boy Kenny never passes up a chance.

I'd love to hear Dawkins lecture.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/27/2007 :  22:35:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I finally got around to watching the two videos of Dawkins speaking at Randolph-Macon. (I have a low end DSL connection.) I was most impressed. Rather than the bitter, aggressive evangelist for atheism that he is portrayed to be by the fundies, I saw a most likable and polite aggressive evangelist for atheism.

But I can now understand why the fundies are so ready to throw hatred at Dawkins and the "New Atheism": They fear his message, and himself as an effective messenger. They've essentially never had to combat open atheism before. Now along comes a guy who can take on several dozen of Falwell's goons and make them look like fools, and do it all politely.

I guess I'd be afraid of him, too.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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