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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 10/09/2008 :  12:21:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Unfortunately just one highly motivated nut job can probably still do a lot of damage in todays world. Hope it does not happen....but he will have to be extra cautious.


Indeed but I'd hope the secret service to be, at least, that smart.


On an unrelated note: he too is counting the days....

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2008 :  20:37:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Watch for some preemptive pardons as another part of Bush's "transition" activity. The list of Administration officials to be pardoned may be obscenely extensive, and even include the first-ever "pardon me," where Bush pardons himself. (Betcha there are going to be some crooked preachers on that list, too.)



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  01:51:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by astropin

Originally posted by filthy

October suprise..... I can think of a couple of good ones.

Or, and perhaps best yet: Obama could catch the 7.65X39mm ill-tempered argument. It could be blamed on the Klan, or some other batch of Hitler wannabes that everybody else loaths, and give Bush a chance to flex his muscles, thereby pumping up McCain as he now runs against Biden.



You can be quite sure it will be attempted after the election.....and possibly by a real klan member. It's one of my wife's biggest fears. She thinks the country will rally around Obama only to see him killed....bringing an even darker cloud over this nation.
Has it already begun?
75-year-old Wade Williams, arrested Wednesday morning, was angry that he hadn't yet received his voter registration card. According to the Ouachita Parish Sheriff's Office, Williams threatened a state official over the phone that he would "empty his shotgun," stating an urgent need to vote to "keep the nigger out of office." On the way to be booked at the Ouachita Correctional Center, Williams reportedly "continued his 'tirade' about niggers and also stated that he had a shotgun, but had hidden it at his residence."
Dunno if this moron is Klan or not, but he shows the same mind-set: a combination of irrational hatred and it's accompanying stupidity.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/10/2008 :  02:39:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by astropin

Originally posted by filthy

October suprise..... I can think of a couple of good ones.

Or, and perhaps best yet: Obama could catch the 7.65X39mm ill-tempered argument. It could be blamed on the Klan, or some other batch of Hitler wannabes that everybody else loaths, and give Bush a chance to flex his muscles, thereby pumping up McCain as he now runs against Biden.



You can be quite sure it will be attempted after the election.....and possibly by a real klan member. It's one of my wife's biggest fears. She thinks the country will rally around Obama only to see him killed....bringing an even darker cloud over this nation.



Odd that you said that:
The stunning debut novel from the star of "Star Trek: The Next Generation". The United States of 2019 is a very different place. Economic depression, an enormous earthquake, and the assassination of a black President-elect have turned the country into a war zone. Four people, each as different and troubled as the next, are the nation's last hope. But can they overcome the devastation and build a new world?

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Simon
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USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  07:42:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool! We are in advance on the program.

Maybe that means that the 'making out with green alien babes' will come earlier too!

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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astropin
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USA
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Posted - 10/10/2008 :  10:25:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthyHas it already begun?
75-year-old Wade Williams, arrested Wednesday morning, was angry that he hadn't yet received his voter registration card. According to the Ouachita Parish Sheriff's Office, Williams threatened a state official over the phone that he would "empty his shotgun," stating an urgent need to vote to "keep the nigger out of office." On the way to be booked at the Ouachita Correctional Center, Williams reportedly "continued his 'tirade' about niggers and also stated that he had a shotgun, but had hidden it at his residence."
Dunno if this moron is Klan or not, but he shows the same mind-set: a combination of irrational hatred and it's accompanying stupidity.






The real problem is they are not all that stupid.

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

Infinitus est numerus stultorum
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H. Humbert
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USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  11:04:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check out this clip of McCain/Palin supporters as they wait in line to attend a political rally in PA. Sidewalk to Nowhere. They are every bit as stupid, ignorant, and hateful as feared. Maybe more so. And they all outwardly appear like average decent Americans. For instance, watch the nice gray-haired old man call a nearby group of protesters "commie faggots," or the sweet grandmotherly woman who unblinkingly decries Obama as a terrorist. Regular salt of the Earth, these folk.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 10/10/2008 11:05:20
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  11:56:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Check out this clip of McCain/Palin supporters as they wait in line to attend a political rally in PA. Sidewalk to Nowhere. They are every bit as stupid, ignorant, and hateful as feared. Maybe more so. And they all outwardly appear like average decent Americans. For instance, watch the nice gray-haired old man call a nearby group of protesters "commie faggots," or the sweet grandmotherly woman who unblinkingly decries Obama as a terrorist. Regular salt of the Earth, these folk.


I think that in the long run, these pathetic lackwits will hurt McCain's chances with their disgusting behavior televised across the country.

On the other hand, "the times, they are a'changin'."



Rednecks for Obama




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  10:58:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here are the latest tracking poll numbers. Obama has hit 7.6% overall. A week ago he as at around 5%. These numbers change even throughout the day, but breaking 7 is a big deal.

RealClearPolitics Poll Averages

Also, Virginia has been moved from "toss up" to "leaning Obama" which changes the Electoral Map in a very significant way. Obama leads there by 5.6% which is more than the margin of polling error.

Note: Minnesota has moved from solid Obama to leaning Obama. I hate when that happens...

RealClearPolitics Electoral College

If things keep moving this way, we could see double digits overall by the end of next week. Also, I have heard more than a few conservative pundits say the party is over and Obama will win.

Don't pop your corks yet. Double digits are what Obama needs, I think. What is significant is that Obama seems to own the game now, and McCain is stuck in defense mode with few ways, or days to go...

Edited for accuracy.


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dude
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  20:20:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Obama needs to be ahead in the polls by double the margin of error to counter the closet racism.

The polls also probably don't reflect younger voters very well, but since these asshats don't really ever vote it may not be an issue...

I'd like to see Obama with a 10-12point lead in FL, then I'll feel confident of him winning.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Simon
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USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  21:01:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From what I heard; polls' reliability decrease when the polled person has a vested interest in one of the answer.
For example if he is afraid of legal consequences or if he consider one of the answer 'shameful'. For example, if it might imply racism...


So, yeah, I am trying not to raise my hopes too much.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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chefcrsh
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Hong Kong
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Posted - 10/12/2008 :  00:03:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send chefcrsh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a bit surprised at how low California is compare to NYC.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 10/12/2008 :  01:00:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chefcrsh

I'm a bit surprised at how low California is compare to NYC.
Well remember, we still have Orange County, San Diego and the central valley. While the demographic is changing, there are still a lot of republicans here.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 10/13/2008 :  02:34:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, it looks as though Obama has hit double digits.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Simon
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USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  07:47:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True; but this two examples suggest that a candidate might loose as much as 11 points (9 for Clinton) until the elections. So, we are not safe yet...

Post-ABC polling, and it was as high as 19 points before the election, which he won by six points. In mid-October 1976, Jimmy Carter had leads as big as 13 points in Gallup polling; Carter defeated incumbent Gerald Ford by two points.



I was surprise to read that 90% of pollees thought that the country was heading in the wrong direction. 90% is a lot.
Less surprising is that most people see McCain as focussing on attacking Obama and avoiding the issues, this is also my personal feeling and that'd would explain why McCain is changing (once again) his strategy on the subject.

The guys seems so erratic, it's almost pitiful, a neo-con deer caught in the headlights of history...

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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