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the_ignored
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  04:04:52  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is almost bent enough to be one of HalfMooner's works.

Unfortunately, it isn't.

What I get a kick out of, is they call Calvin the "lover of liberty"?

What bullshit.

Calvin was a strong believer in behaving as God wished. Immorality was severely condemned but to begin with the consistory was not an effective body. It only started to be so when the number of appointed ministers was greater than the elders. Also in 1555, the city council gave the consistory the right to excommunicate offenders. Only after this date was a strict moral code imposed and every sin was made a crime e.g. no work or pleasure on a Sunday; no extravagance in dress. If you were excommunicated you were banished from the city. Blasphemy could be punished by death; lewd singing could be punished by your tongue being pierced.


Yeah, that's some serious effing "liberty" right there.




>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  04:32:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

This is almost bent enough to be one of HalfMooner's works.

Unfortunately, it isn't.

What I get a kick out of, is they call Calvin the "lover of liberty"?

What bullshit.

Calvin was a strong believer in behaving as God wished. Immorality was severely condemned but to begin with the consistory was not an effective body. It only started to be so when the number of appointed ministers was greater than the elders. Also in 1555, the city council gave the consistory the right to excommunicate offenders. Only after this date was a strict moral code imposed and every sin was made a crime e.g. no work or pleasure on a Sunday; no extravagance in dress. If you were excommunicated you were banished from the city. Blasphemy could be punished by death; lewd singing could be punishDang, for a minuteed by your tongue being pierced.


Yeah, that's some serious effing "liberty" right there.


Dang, for a minute there, I thought you meant this Calvin who really is a lover of Liberty.



Thanks for the read!






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Simon
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  18:56:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

This is almost bent enough to be one of HalfMooner's works.

Unfortunately, it isn't.

What I get a kick out of, is they call Calvin the "lover of liberty"?

What bullshit.

Calvin was a strong believer in behaving as God wished. Immorality was severely condemned but to begin with the consistory was not an effective body. It only started to be so when the number of appointed ministers was greater than the elders. Also in 1555, the city council gave the consistory the right to excommunicate offenders. Only after this date was a strict moral code imposed and every sin was made a crime e.g. no work or pleasure on a Sunday; no extravagance in dress. If you were excommunicated you were banished from the city. Blasphemy could be punished by death; lewd singing could be punished by your tongue being pierced.


Yeah, that's some serious effing "liberty" right there.



Little known fact: 'Miss Liberty' was the nickname of a transvestite gay prostitute that Calvin used to 'know'...

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  03:23:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some "Liberty" indeed. John Calvin turned Geneva into something very like a Taliban Sharia-law nightmare theocratic state. His hateful bigotry remains alive in America through the abuses of his descendant sects, especially the Southern Baptist Convention.


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filthy
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  03:37:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Some "Liberty" indeed. John Calvin turned Geneva into something very like a Taliban Sharia-law nightmare theocratic state. His hateful bigotry remains alive in America through the abuses of his descendant sects, especially the Southern Baptist Convention.

Yes indeed, and so it has been throughout the history of religion. With a few exceptions, that mostly, sooner or later, get devoured by more aggressive "faiths," they are all of the Taliban mould.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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