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Doomar
SFN Regular

USA
714 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  12:51:08  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Barrack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, British citizen, Indonesian citizen, American citizen become Senator and now President should be the subject of much skepticism in this forum.

How could such a man become the President of the United Stated? He was NOT a natural born citizen, actually has been a citizen of two other countries, went to much of grade school in Indonesia, was probably a foreign student in Occidental College - lived with Pakistanis; may have been born in Kenya, according to his own grandmother who says she was present at his birth; his birth certificate is held in vault, supposedly, in Hawaii, yet a Kenyan birth certificate with his name on it exists...the list goes on.

Are you skeptical of this president and his credentials or do you feel just peachy?

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

www.pastorsb.com.htm

moakley
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USA
1883 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  13:05:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
His August 4, 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate has been verified as legite by respected source on more than one occassion. The Kenyan birth certificate has been shown to be a laughable fraud.

The Skeptics haven't missed a thing, but the birthers, well, they are missing many things when it comes to critical thinking and honest evaluation of existing data.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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the_ignored
SFN Addict

2550 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  13:21:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doomar, this has been beaten to bloody death. On that thread, I deal with one of you idiot "birthers".

He's just as incoherent.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  13:37:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You ask us to be skeptical of the president yet accept all your claims at face value. Are you intending to be a hypocrite?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  13:38:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I call racism. And I'll use your own tactic: Prove me wrong, Doomar.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  13:41:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Should I dignify this arrant nonsense with a relpy?

Ah, whaddahell -- whatever his foreign travels and education, Barack Hussein Obama is a natural-born, American citizen and as such is perfectly qualified to be the President of these United States. It has been documented ad nauseum.

What I think the beef with the birthers is: a black man got elected, by a quite healthy margin, and they just can't stand it.

That's right; I'm calling the birthers, and the teabaggers, and the astroturfers that are disrupting the town hall meetings a collective of racist pustules who ought to have their ass' kicked every time they bend over, and even when they don't.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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moakley
SFN Regular

USA
1883 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  14:09:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

What I think the beef with the birthers is: a black man got elected, by a quite healthy margin, and they just can't stand it.
Or as The Onion would put it, "Black Man given Nations Worst Job".

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
25977 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  14:43:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Doomar

Are you skeptical of this president and his credentials or do you feel just peachy?
False dichotomy. What most of us are skeptical of is you, Doomar, not least because of your long history of false claims here in these forums.

But really, isn't one thread enough for discussing these claims, Doomar?

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend

Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2009 :  14:46:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think for lots of the more bizarre critics the problem is that he's black. Not too many of them say it out loud, but some of them come very close. And to make sure everyone understand they're not racists, they instead call Obama a racist, for no reason. And, slightly higher taxes is slavery, which the white protesters could never say if a white president wanted to raise taxes. Also, Obama is a Muslim sleeper terrorist who will reeducate people to become queerosexual Socialists, while others will be executed by his healthcare death panels. That's because he's the Antichrist. And black.

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
Edited by - Maverick on 08/12/2009 14:48:59
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  02:30:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Maverick

I think for lots of the more bizarre critics the problem is that he's black. Not too many of them say it out loud, but some of them come very close. And to make sure everyone understand they're not racists, they instead call Obama a racist, for no reason. And, slightly higher taxes is slavery, which the white protesters could never say if a white president wanted to raise taxes. Also, Obama is a Muslim sleeper terrorist who will reeducate people to become queerosexual Socialists, while others will be executed by his healthcare death panels. That's because he's the Antichrist. And black.
Also, he's a negro.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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astropin
SFN Regular

USA
970 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  12:13:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sill waiting for Obama to come out and give a speech and start out with:

"Hey, where the white women at?"

That would be so classic! (For bonus pts. name the movie & actor)

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

Infinitus est numerus stultorum
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13458 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  12:18:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by astropin

I'm sill waiting for Obama to come out and give a speech and start out with:

"Hey, where the white women at?"

That would be so classic! (For bonus pts. name the movie & actor)
Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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pleco
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USA
2996 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  13:54:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  14:47:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, I'm going to have to go with bngbuck's "fucking stupid" hypothesis here Doomar. Because you are too fucking stupid to be allowed to vote if you think Obama is not a natural born US citizen.


His birth was announced in two seperate newspapers:
Obama birth announcement #1

Obama birth announcement #2

Birth certificate:
Is real.

Read the Snopes page.

Look at the actual birth certificate.

Even the St. Petersburg Times PolitiFact scetion, which conducted a thorough search of the candidate's records, concludes he is a natural born US citizen.

Doomar, what you and the other morons whoo spread this lie are suggesting is absurd. You are positing a 50 year conspiracy, involving hundreds of people and dozens of government agencies, to fake the birthplace of one infant on the chance he would someday be elected president of the US.

I know, I shouldn't expect critical thinking or the ability to distinguish between fiction and reality from you people who think the TV show 24 is a realistic representation of counter-terrorism operations....

Remove your head from your rectal cavity Doomar. All the BS in there is impeding your ability to think rationally.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Grayven
New Member

19 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  21:21:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Grayven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doomar,

Obama is the president, and was duly elected. Get over it. The people of America made their (poor) choice and picked this guy, now he's president. The good evidence points to ... it was legitimate. This sucks, but its time to suck it up and accept defeat. We lost, libs won.

But there is good news.

His term is only 4 years, and 1/2 a year is already over.

If he keeps up his insipid milquetoast ways, he'll be easily defeated in 2012. (He can't even make a stand against "dont ask dont tell", which proves he's got no guts, since most of the us is against it.)

I'm a conservative, but I've been saddened by Obama's lack of guts twice.

When DADT(dont ask dont tell) came out in the 90's, I was against it. I was afraid it would ruin troop morale, and make our fighting forces weaker. But we had no evidence one way or the other then.

I was wrong. We have gays in the military now, and our troops kick ass. They,ve (the gays) been there semi-openly for a bit, with no harm and possibly some improvement.

We've done our test. We can have gays in the military. Gays dont lead to general demoralisation, or an inability to pul a trigger. Gays can fight, and fight well. We wont die of this.

Why is Obama not pushing this. Would we fight this, or even bother. (Im not talking about gay marraige , thats another topic).

Obama is not pushing for this because he is too big a weenie to say

LOOK

"It our country, trhw3irs too. Why whouldndn't they defend it"

SOOOOOOO


What is your plan for kicking the left wing out? I'm a right wing atheist skeptic, and I wanna know, so I don't fuck it up for you.

I think in 2012 qw'll win, after Obamam has had some time to prove how good he isnt.

Big right wing wins in 2012.....unless we prove ourselves to be wingnuts.

THANKS TO DOOMAR FOR LETTING THE LEFT TAKE OVER

((((Doomar is not right wing, he is heresy wing))))

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Maverick
Skeptic Friend

Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  21:49:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What you mean is obviously that gays in the military can be more open about it, because I am sure they have been in the military for as long as there has been one, anywhere in the world. when it's not acceptable, they probably stay below the radar, which apparently means they're not there at all.

I don't see what the problem is, anyway. What were people afraid of? I have to quote Bill Hicks: "I don't want any gay people hanging around me when I'm killing kids!"

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
Edited by - Maverick on 08/14/2009 21:50:36
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