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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 10/20/2009 : 16:19:13
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Despite the positive ("welcomed") spin by CNN, this looks like nothing but a full-scale sectarian raid to me. A fight over dwindling resources -- the faithful. The Vatican wants to devour at least the right wing of the Anglican Communion.
In corporate terms, this is not a friendly take-over. It amounts to a deliberate attempt to finish off one of the major branches of Protestantism. ROME, Italy (CNN) -- The Vatican said Tuesday it has worked out a way for groups of Anglicans who are dissatisfied with their faith to join the Catholic Church.
The Vatican says more Anglicans have expressed an interest in joining the Catholic Church.
The Vatican says more Anglicans have expressed an interest in joining the Catholic Church.
The process will allow groups of Anglicans, including bishops and married priests, to join the Catholic Church some 450 years after King Henry VIII broke from Rome and created the Church of England, forerunner of the Anglican Communion.
The number of Anglicans wishing to join the Catholic Church has increased in recent years as the Anglican church has welcomed the ordination of women and openly gay clergy and blessed homosexual partnerships, said Cardinal William Joseph Levada, the head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Their talks with the Vatican recently began speeding up, Vatican officials said, leading to Tuesday's announcement |
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 10/20/2009 16:32:29
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2009 : 04:29:30 [Permalink]
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Yes, and it could certainly get interesting. This move drags the married priest issue out from under it's fetid, rotting log and onto the daylight for all to see it's insanity. That might or might not be a good thing.
I can visualize it as splitting the Church -- conservative traditionalists on one side, liberal progressives on another, and the rest not giving a rat's ass beyond being glad that Father Whosis is offically dipping his wick into someone besides an alter boy. They'll just wish that the other two'd shut the hell up about it.
ROME — In making it easier for traditionalist Anglicans to become Catholic, Pope Benedict XVI once again revealed the character of his papacy: to reach out to the most fervent of like-minded believers, even if they are not Catholic. Yet some observers wonder whether his move could paradoxically liberalize the church — or at least wedge it open — on a crucial issue: celibacy.
Times Topics: Christians and Christianity | Roman Catholic ChurchIn a momentous move on Tuesday, the Vatican said it would help Anglicans uncomfortable with female priests and openly gay bishops join a new Anglican rite within the Catholic Church.
The invitation also extends to married Anglican clergy. And so some have begun to wonder, even if the 82-year-old Benedict himself would never allow it, would more people in the Roman Catholic Church begin to entertain the possibility of married Catholic priests?
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But I'm sure that the Church will work around it. Historically, they always have.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2009 : 09:01:56 [Permalink]
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Mooner wrote: | It amounts to a deliberate attempt to finish off one of the major branches of Protestantism. |
A branch which was started 'cause a King wanted a divorce. Big whoop. Let 'em take the right wingers. The left wingers left over will be better without them.
The Catholic church has been shrinking, especially in the rich nations and among educated people, for quite a while. Swallowing the Anglicans won't save them now. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2009 : 15:38:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Mooner wrote: | It amounts to a deliberate attempt to finish off one of the major branches of Protestantism. |
A branch which was started 'cause a King wanted a divorce. Big whoop. Let 'em take the right wingers. The left wingers left over will be better without them.
The Catholic church has been shrinking, especially in the rich nations and among educated people, for quite a while. Swallowing the Anglicans won't save them now.
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All quite true. But this really is as severe an attack as one sect can make upon another. And the Anglican official reaction is so wishy-washy; they treat the raid as if it were a good thing :| The Church of England said the move ends a "period of uncertainty" for Anglican groups who wanted more unity with the Catholic Church. |
As in, "The period of uncertainly regarding Grandmother's fate has been ended by her being thrown off the train." |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2009 : 15:45:09 [Permalink]
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| Mooner, just an off topic comment - I really like your quotes from Paul and Martin Luther. Did you recently add them to your signature? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2009 : 16:02:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Mooner, just an off topic comment - I really like your quotes from Paul and Martin Luther. Did you recently add them to your signature?
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Yes, thanks for noticing! I wanted to show how early church fathers justified their pious fraud. What I found surprised me. |
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Anglicans "welcomed" back into Catholic Church
