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cantbe323
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 Posted - 01/30/2010 : 14:51:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Sadly yes, since no one dares to debate with me on any of the topics I presented, that's really the only conclusion I can draw. |
But just for fun, let me answer all of your OP's at once in the only way they can be answered, given how detailed they are, and we shall see if this works as a debate for you. Here goes. Are you ready?
I think you are wrong.
There you go. Are you happy now?
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Not enough... You have to tell me what I'm wrong about.
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cantbe323
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 15:26:36 [Permalink]
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I told him how to do it with no hassle and he instantly crawfished on me, which, in all truth, was not exactly unexpected. Thus I must conclude that there is no drawing nor even the inspiration for such. >>
Here's a clue. The gaseous earth and moon were cast off the sun at the same time by a giant explosion, the smaller moon attached to the earth by a kind of long gaseous umbilical cord. Moving through space, the moon rotated around the earth like a giant bola, and when the tumbling pair reached a certain place, the sub zero cold solidified them both, the umbilical cord shattered, gravity took over, and the moon continued to rotate around the earth. When they reached a certain place in space, the sun pulled them back into the orbit they have today.
That's the best I can do with just words...
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 15:40:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Here's a clue. The gaseous earth and moon were cast off the sun at the same time by a giant explosion, the smaller moon attached to the earth by a kind of long gaseous umbilical cord. Moving through space, the moon rotated around the earth like a giant bola, and when the tumbling pair reached a certain place, the sub zero cold solidified them both, the umbilical cord shattered, gravity took over, and the moon continued to rotate around the earth. When they reached a certain place in space, the sun pulled them back into the orbit they have today.
That's the best I can do with just words... |
Can you present the math behind how any of that would work? You know, using equations and data that any engineer would be familiar with? |
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cantbe323
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 16:13:00 [Permalink]
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[quote]Originally posted by Dave W.
[quote]Originally posted by cantbe323
Here's a clue. The gaseous earth and moon were cast off the sun at the same time by a giant explosion, the smaller moon attached to the earth by a kind of long gaseous umbilical cord. Moving through space, the moon rotated around the earth like a giant bola, and when the tumbling pair reached a certain place, the sub zero cold solidified them both, the umbilical cord shattered, gravity took over, and the moon continued to rotate around the earth. When they reached a certain place in space, the sun pulled them back into the orbit they have today.
That's the best I can do with just words...>>
Can you present the math behind how any of that would work? You know, using equations and data that any engineer would be familiar with?
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Yeah, sure, I'll just pull them out of thin air.
The only things I can relate with is... There's a history of smaller gaseous sun explosions, bolas work in S America, and molten steel turns into balls when dropped in water.
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pleco
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 16:30:01 [Permalink]
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| still waiting on the fax... |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 17:22:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Yeah, sure, I'll just pull them out of thin air.
The only things I can relate with is... There's a history of smaller gaseous sun explosions, bolas work in S America, and molten steel turns into balls when dropped in water. |
Okay, so you've got no clue as to whether the physics of your ideas would actually work. After all, there's no history of solar mass ejections creating planets (or even small rocks); SMEs consist of plasma; bola strings aren't made of plasma, and plasmas don't cool into balls in the vacuum of space.
You don't have a theory, you have a massive analogy failure. |
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filthy
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 18:47:54 [Permalink]
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| The only things I can relate with is... There's a history of smaller gaseous sun explosions, bolas work in S America, and molten steel turns into balls when dropped in water. |
It is not wise to drop any molten metal into water, especally one that pours at some 2500+ degrees F, if memory serves. And it will not cool into a sphere, but a distorted nugget, as often as not in several pieces.
I had a friend in VT who was a silversmith. He used to make tie tacks and cuff links in just that manner, and when he poured the silver, he stood as far back from the quench bucket as he could get. It was some pretty strange-looking jewelry, but it sold pretty well at the craft fairs.
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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 19:56:14 [Permalink]
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Cant.....
From Wiki
The co-formation hypothesis proposes that the Earth and the Moon formed together at the same time and place from the primordial accretion disk. The Moon would have formed from material surrounding the proto-Earth, similar to the formation of the planets around the Sun. Some suggest that this hypothesis fails to adequately explain the depletion of metallic iron in the Moon.[53]
A major deficiency in all these hypotheses is that they cannot readily account for the high angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system. |
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 19:59:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
It is not wise to drop any molten metal into water, especally one that pours at some 2500+ degrees F, if memory serves. And it will not cool into a sphere, but a distorted nugget, as often as not in several pieces. |
I bet that cantbe is probably mistakenly thinking of shot towers. |
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Randy
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 20:58:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by filthy
It is not wise to drop any molten metal into water, especally one that pours at some 2500+ degrees F, if memory serves. And it will not cool into a sphere, but a distorted nugget, as often as not in several pieces. |
I bet that cantbe is probably mistakenly thinking of shot towers.
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Sure, cantbe's statement makes sense now...Earth's core is made up of 87 septillion tons of double aught buckshot. |
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filthy
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 08:51:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Randy
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by filthy
It is not wise to drop any molten metal into water, especally one that pours at some 2500+ degrees F, if memory serves. And it will not cool into a sphere, but a distorted nugget, as often as not in several pieces. |
I bet that cantbe is probably mistakenly thinking of shot towers.
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Sure, cantbe's statement makes sense now...Earth's core is made up of 87 septillion tons of double aught buckshot.
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Actually, to get the tonnage up, you'd have to use a smaller shot than 00. There'd be too much space between them. #6 or smaller birdshot would be better -- picky, picky,picky.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 09:02:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
... Too late for this old dog to learn new tricks. |
Yup, I noticed.
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 13:24:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Not enough... You have to tell me what I'm wrong about.
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He aleady told you. Can't you read?
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 20:09:21 [Permalink]
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I find it interesting that even the gas giants have moons. Which couldn't have been created by impact ejecta. If our moon was create that way then there has to be at least two proesses that created them.
Also,,,, Planets are basically our sun's moon's and a few billion years ago before man, we called them "Sun's young moons". SS |
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Randy
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 20:29:24 [Permalink]
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(Thanks to Wiki)
Lunar libration...
Known Solar System moons to date...
Mercury 0
Venus 0
Earth 1
Moon
Mars 2
Phobos, Deimos
Jupiter 62
Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Amalthea, Himalia, Elara, Pasiphae, Sinope, Lysithea, Carme, Ananke, Leda, Metis, Adrastea, Thebe, Callirrhoe, Themisto, Kalyke, Iocaste, Erinome, Harpalyke, Isonoe, Praxidike, Megaclite, Taygete, Chaldene, Autonoe, Thyone, Hermippe, Eurydome, Sponde, Pasithee, Euanthe, Kale, Orthosie, Euporie, Aitne, plus others yet to receive names
Saturn 33
Titan, Rhea, Iapetus, Dione, Tethys, Enceladus, Mimas, Hyperion, Prometheus, Pandora, Phoebe, Janus, Epimetheus, Helene, Telesto, Calypso, Atlas, Pan, Ymir, Paaliaq, Siarnaq, Tarvos, Kiviuq, Ijiraq, Thrym, Skadi, Mundilfari, Erriapo, Albiorix, Suttung, plus others yet to receive names
Uranus 27
Cordelia, Ophelia, Bianca, Cressida, Desdemona, Juliet, Portia, Rosalind, Belinda, Puck, Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Oberon, Caliban, Sycorax, Prospero, Setebos, Stephano, Trinculo, plus others yet to receive names
Neptune 13
Triton, Nereid, Naiad, Thalassa, Despina, Galatea, Larissa, Proteus, plus others yet to receive names
Pluto 1
Charon
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the birth of our moon?
