Skeptic Friends Network

Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?
Home | Forums | Active Topics | Active Polls | Register | FAQ | Contact Us  
  Connect: Chat | SFN Messenger | Buddy List | Members
Personalize: Profile | My Page | Forum Bookmarks  
 All Forums
 Our Skeptic Forums
 General Skepticism
 David Brin on Climate Change "Deniers & Skeptics"
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly Bookmark this Topic BookMark Topic
Previous Page | Next Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 5

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  14:50:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the sake of argument let's make the remarkable assumption that footage from entertainment channels are evidence. Then what are scientists and their organized data, chopped liver? >>

Yes, they are chopped liver... potentially guilty of false statements, unless they can prove their global warming theories. At this stage of the game, words aren't enough, responsible concerned people want proof.

cantbe323
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  14:57:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You really can't blame them for being overprotective because it could mean a loss of their fragile reputations and respectibility if they're proven wrong.>>

How would the revelation of a "base line" temperature prove or aid in proving them wrong? >>

It isn't just the base line temp, it's also explaining the world wide processes they used to obtain it and how reliable they were.

cantbe323
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  15:05:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think you're just another low-life Internet troll, playing mind games, fueled by inflated and unearned self-regard. >>

What you just said reveals more about you than me... You can't possibly know what and who I am.

cantbe323
Go to Top of Page

tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  15:07:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323
It isn't just the base line temp, it's also explaining the world wide processes they used to obtain it and how reliable they were.

cantbe323

You could always read the articles where they describe these things in. But of course, that is a silly suggestion.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Go to Top of Page

Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  15:18:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323

If you know where to find the base line temp, please let me know. I've checked every source I can think of.
It's in every scientific discussion of rising temperatures. It's even in the caption to the famous hockey-stick graph. It is ubiquitous, but you can't find it. That speaks volumes.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
Go to Top of Page

filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  15:45:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Link 7




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Go to Top of Page

Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9687 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  23:56:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323

I think you're just another low-life Internet troll, playing mind games, fueled by inflated and unearned self-regard. >>

What you just said reveals more about you than me... You can't possibly know what and who I am.

cantbe323
Have you been lying to us about who you are?


Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  14:45:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It isn't just the base line temp, it's also explaining the world wide processes they used to obtain it and how reliable they were.

cantbe323

You could always read the articles where they describe these things in.>>

Good, finally something of substance. Tell me where to find it, a clue, anything...

cantbe323
Go to Top of Page

tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  14:52:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323
Good, finally something of substance. Tell me where to find it, a clue, anything...

http://scholar.google.com/


Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  14:53:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you know where to find the base line temp, please let me know. I've checked every source I can think of. cantbe323

It's in every scientific discussion of rising temperatures. It's even in the caption to the famous hockey-stick graph. It is ubiquitous, but you can't find it. That speaks volumes. >>

Your deviousness also speaks volumns. There is no such information available and you know it. Scientists aren't about to publish anything that would pin them down. They may be in deniel, but they're stupid.

cantbe323
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  14:57:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What you just said reveals more about you than me... You can't possibly know what and who I am.

cantbe323

Have you been lying to us about who you are? >>

In football jargon, that's known as a misdirection play...

cantbe323

Go to Top of Page

tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  15:07:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323
Your deviousness also speaks volumns. There is no such information available and you know it. Scientists aren't about to publish anything that would pin them down. They may be in deniel, but they're stupid.

cantbe323

Indeed! Because a methods section is not a standard part of every single scientific report.

...

What? It is? Well fuck you!, I never read those so they're not there.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Go to Top of Page

Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  16:59:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by cantbe323

Your deviousness also speaks volumns. There is no such information available and you know it. Scientists aren't about to publish anything that would pin them down. They may be in deniel, but they're stupid.
Everything you wrote in the above quote is the opposite of reality.

How about that debate?

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
Go to Top of Page

filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2010 :  17:39:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Link 9

Link 10

Edited to get the numerical order straightened out. I temporarily lost track of it.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 02/22/2010 18:23:07
Go to Top of Page

cantbe323
Suspended

242 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2010 :  13:11:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send cantbe323 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Your deviousness also speaks volumns. There is no such information available and you know it. Scientists aren't about to publish anything that would pin them down. They may be in deniel, but they're not stupid.

cantbe323

Everything you wrote in the above quote is the opposite of reality. >>

Thanks (sob) that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

cantbe323

Go to Top of Page
Page: of 5 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly Bookmark this Topic BookMark Topic
Jump To:

The mission of the Skeptic Friends Network is to promote skepticism, critical thinking, science and logic as the best methods for evaluating all claims of fact, and we invite active participation by our members to create a skeptical community with a wide variety of viewpoints and expertise.


Home | Skeptic Forums | Skeptic Summary | The Kil Report | Creation/Evolution | Rationally Speaking | Skeptillaneous | About Skepticism | Fan Mail | Claims List | Calendar & Events | Skeptic Links | Book Reviews | Gift Shop | SFN on Facebook | Staff | Contact Us

Skeptic Friends Network
© 2008 Skeptic Friends Network Go To Top Of Page
This page was generated in 0.17 seconds.
Powered by @tomic Studio
Snitz Forums 2000