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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 04/27/2011 :  09:55:44  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
White House Releases Obama Birth Certificate


...Mr. Obama said he has watched the debate over his birth place with "bemusement." Lawmakers from both parties, investigative reporters and others have probed his birth place and confirmed "that yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, in Kapiolani hospital."

Donald Trump, billionaire and potential Republican presidential candidate, has in recent weeks fueled concerns about Mr. Obama's birth place. At a news conference in New Hampshire Wednesday, Mr. Trump took credit for getting Mr. Obama to release the document.

"I'm very proud of myself because I've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish," he said. Mr. Trump said Mr. Obama should have released the document "a long time ago."

Mr. Trump said he wants to check to make sure the birth certificate is real. He said he hopes it "checks out beautifully" so the country can focus on other important issues...


Of course, Trump is a lying sack of shit. But whatever.

I don't think for a second that this will stop the "birthers." They'll claim shenanigans. I might be wrong about that, but I doubt that I am.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Ebone4rock
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USA
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Posted - 04/27/2011 :  10:52:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ebone4rock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it wrong that I voted for him because he is from Hawaii and when given a choice I will always pick whatever it is that is most Hawaiian?

Haole with heart, thats all I'll ever be. I'm not a part of the North Shore society. Stuck on the shoulder, that's where you'll find me. Digging for scraps with the kooks in line. -Offspring
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Fripp
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USA
727 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2011 :  10:57:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now Trump is asking for his college and law school transcripts. In a way, I'm loving this because the very fact that Trump can learn to spout a few talking points and automatically become a Repub front-runner shows clearly how pathetic they are.

Then again, one would think that after Palin and Bachmann, the average person would see what clowns they are. But people like our own bill scott seem to lap this stuff up.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Dude
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USA
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Posted - 04/27/2011 :  15:38:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trump is just using this for free publicity.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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The Rat
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Canada
1342 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2011 :  16:52:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The birthers will just say that it took this long to forge one.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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Randy
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USA
1989 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2011 :  17:47:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a thought... underneath it all, lacking direction, the moron birthers are actually Apollo deniers incarnate.
OMFG!....it's a born-again idiocy conspiracy!
;^)

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  01:44:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The birthers are fools not to be suffered gladly, but to be suffered anyway. Thatís democracy. Orly Whassherface has already voiced suspicions of forgery -- Iíd link it but I prefer to let everyone find their own lunacy.

Obama has been a great disappointment -- a Republican in progressive feathering, really -- but Trump? That scoundrel is unworthy of any consideration at all. Or maybe not; who else could profit from going bankrupt?

As things stand right now, Iím not going to vote this time. Itíll be the first national election Iíve missed in decades, but there will not be a name on my ballot worth the gas to get me to the polls.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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podcat
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  02:28:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keith Olbermann gives his opinion about the release:

http://foknewschannel.com/maguffins-1-obama-0/#more-352

Theyíre carnival barkers. They donít stop selling tickets just because there isnít a real mermaid back there. If you prove thereís no mermaid, tomorrow theyíll tell you thereís a Martian.

Or better yet, theyíll sell you on the new scandal: What happened to the Mermaid? Meet The 20-Foot Tall Detective Tracing Our Missing Mermaid!

ďIn a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriouslyĒ.

-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
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The Rat
SFN Regular

Canada
1342 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  05:18:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy


As things stand right now, Iím not going to vote this time. Itíll be the first national election Iíve missed in decades, but there will not be a name on my ballot worth the gas to get me to the polls.



Up here we have a way of not voting - you approach the person who gives you the paper ballot (yes, we still use those), they hand it to you, you take it from them, and you immediately hand it back and say "I refuse this ballot." It has to be recorded as such, and therefore is on record as a protest. I don't know if anyone has done so recently, but the option is there.


Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  07:33:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

White House Releases Obama Birth Certificate


...Mr. Obama said he has watched the debate over his birth place with "bemusement." Lawmakers from both parties, investigative reporters and others have probed his birth place and confirmed "that yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, in Kapiolani hospital."

Donald Trump, billionaire and potential Republican presidential candidate, has in recent weeks fueled concerns about Mr. Obama's birth place. At a news conference in New Hampshire Wednesday, Mr. Trump took credit for getting Mr. Obama to release the document.

"I'm very proud of myself because I've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish," he said. Mr. Trump said Mr. Obama should have released the document "a long time ago."

Mr. Trump said he wants to check to make sure the birth certificate is real. He said he hopes it "checks out beautifully" so the country can focus on other important issues...


Of course, Trump is a lying sack of shit. But whatever.

I don't think for a second that this will stop the "birthers." They'll claim shenanigans. I might be wrong about that, but I doubt that I am.



Well, I've got my eye on one such birther right now. We'll see.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Bill scott
SFN Addict

USA
2103 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  08:57:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp

Now Trump is asking for his college and law school transcripts. In a way, I'm loving this because the very fact that Trump can learn to spout a few talking points and automatically become a Repub front-runner shows clearly how pathetic they are.

Then again, one would think that after Palin and Bachmann, the average person would see what clowns they are. But people like our own bill scott seem to lap this stuff up.





But of course you are just rambling on again about things of which you have not a clue on. Can you please provide one shred of evidence where I made mention of any birth certificate or college transcripts or Obama's lack there of. I'll save you some time here, I never did.

Please provide a shred of evidence that I offered supported for Palin or Bachmann in any remote fashion. Again, don't even bother looking.

You, my find feathered friend, have proven yourself, once again, to be nothing but a motor mouth who speaks from his current emotions alone and throws all thought on the subject out the window. Keep up the good work, jr.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  11:25:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I touched a nerve. I knew I'd flush you out.

Feel free to reply with yet another insult. But I won't bother responding because I'm not interested in derailing this topic.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Bill scott
SFN Addict

USA
2103 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  12:23:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp



I think I touched a nerve.

You make false and unproven statements about me in a thread where I was previously uninvolved. It sure seems like "touching my nerve" was your goal here.





I knew I'd flush you out.

Why, you miss me do ya?



Feel free to reply with yet another insult. But I won't bother responding because I'm not interested in derailing this topic.

To late for that, you have already derailed it. You make false statements about me in a thread I have not even participated in in an admitted effort to "flush me out"! I then ask you to back up your ramblings and false statements about me with some proof and you go on some holier than thou tangent about how you will not respond to my insult because you don't want to derail the thread. Oh that is rich, even coming from you. You are nothing but pathetic bomb thrower. You just throw some BS story out there and then run away when it it explodes on you.

I noticed you failed to back up any of your original statements. But you never really intended to, did you? You purposefully try and "touch my nerve" in order to "flush me out" and when your desires have been reached you go right back into your predictable one trick pony routine. Sad.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Elmo the Clown
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  12:51:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Elmo the Clown's Homepage Send Elmo the Clown a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ebone4rock

Is it wrong that I voted for him because he is from Hawaii and when given a choice I will always pick whatever it is that is most Hawaiian?

Nope. In fact I would say at least your motives weren't bad (like people who vote for the "lesser of two evils".

It always amazes me that people will vote for the "lesser of two evils" and then complain when they are lied to. Duh, you idiot.. you knew you were casting a vote for evil.

Some of these birthers will believe it to the end... kind of like Obama supporters will always think he was a good choice.

Support a clown, buy a luury cruise from www.ChicLuxuryCruises.com (or any cruise...)
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9672 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  14:11:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott
You make false statements about me in a thread I have not even participated in

What statement of his was false?

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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moakley
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  14:40:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ebone4rock

Is it wrong that I voted for him because he is from Hawaii and when given a choice I will always pick whatever it is that is most Hawaiian?

What I liked best about your comment was trying to imagine what your closet looks like, where you hang your shirts.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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