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justintime
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  15:34:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The reason all the forensic evidence was discarded was the jurors distrust for the science. Too many people have been convicted on DNA evidence only to be later proven wrong and the evidence contaminated or the lab tech incompetent. There is just too much hype in the CSI type technology.

The jury system is also to blame. You cannot pick twelve people off the street and expect them to understand the complicated legal process, forensic and what constitutes a reasonable doubt.

It is an unrealistic, idealistic appeal to exercise the process of the law with a discipline beyond everyday experience. To ascertain facts from expert witnesses testimony which often exceeds the average persons comprehension of the science or ability to process beyond a rudimentary understanding and with that fragile compromise to develop the certainty of a verdict.

The verdict was a reflection on how absurd and flawed the system has grown and how out of touch the people are with their own judicial shortcomings.
Edited by - justintime on 10/05/2011 05:34:13
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/05/2011 :  07:34:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

Too many people have been convicted on DNA evidence only to be later proven wrong and the evidence contaminated or the lab tech incompetent.
Name some.

On the other hand, DNA evidence is freeing many people who were wrongly convicted. Especially death-row inmates.
There is just too much hype in the CSI type technology.
That's the fault of TV shows, and not the legal system. Prosecutors and defense attorneys both deplore the magical "science" seen in today's small-screen courtroom dramas.
The jury system is also to blame. You cannot pick twelve people off the street and expect them to understand the complicated legal process, forensic and what constitutes a reasonable doubt.
Then prosecutors and defense attorneys aren't doing their jobs.

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justintime
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Posted - 10/06/2011 :  06:58:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
America might be in for a double whammy. With the expected cutbacks in education, research, government investment and a stagnant economy. Not only will the US fall behind in innovation, technology etc but will also be less attractive to well educated, skilled professional immigrants because of a lack of jobs and opportunities.

The Tea party movement, the march on Wall Street are just the beginnings of a very short lived dynasty in decline. How desperate was the situation after Bush that Americans turned to a Black man for help and are now struggling desperately to erase that memory.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/06/2011 :  07:17:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

America might be in for a double whammy. With the expected cutbacks in education, research, government investment and a stagnant economy. Not only will the US fall behind in innovation, technology etc but will also be less attractive to well educated, skilled professional immigrants because of a lack of jobs and opportunities.

The Tea party movement, the march on Wall Street are just the beginnings of a very short lived dynasty in decline. How desperate was the situation after Bush that Americans turned to a Black man for help and are now struggling desperately to erase that memory.

What does all this have anything to do with Skeptics' interest in the judicial system, or even televised court proceedings?


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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2011 :  07:58:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

How desperate was the situation after Bush that Americans turned to a Black man for help...
That's not racist at all, is it?
...and are now struggling desperately to erase that memory.
It's more "learning from our mistake," really.

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justintime
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Posted - 10/08/2011 :  06:53:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by justintime

America might be in for a double whammy. With the expected cutbacks in education, research, government investment and a stagnant economy. Not only will the US fall behind in innovation, technology etc but will also be less attractive to well educated, skilled professional immigrants because of a lack of jobs and opportunities.

The Tea party movement, the march on Wall Street are just the beginnings of a very short lived dynasty in decline. How desperate was the situation after Bush that Americans turned to a Black man for help and are now struggling desperately to erase that memory.

What does all this have anything to do with Skeptics' interest in the judicial system, or even televised court proceedings?




One can infer from the current crisis in the US legislative branches where the finest and brightest are unable to arrive at any coherent policy. Finding 12 reasonably intelligent jurors is a tall order.
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