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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/30/2011 : 21:28:33 [Permalink]
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| Come on guys, that is an actual archaeloggical new find. |
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Dave W.
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 Posted - 10/30/2011 : 21:37:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Come on guys, that is an actual archaeloggical new find. |
Yes, about some books which apparently describe some religious practices. Why should anyone raise a fuss over nonsense? |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 05:07:36 [Permalink]
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But it highlights the aspect of them holding a crystal skull, and there really is aa mayan council that is taking 13 crystal skulls.
http://spiritofmaat.com/oct11/crystal_skull_pilgrimage.html - Here the MMayans talk about the crystal skulls, I thought Mayans did not believe in the crystal skulls
This same mayan council went to the UN to discuss about how spirtuality is being lost and that the world is imploding http://www.ipsterraviva.net/UN/currentNew.aspx?new=8267.
Are the mayans themselves admitting something will happen on 2012, and they themselves can use mystical powers to creat some great spiritual awakening.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 05:49:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
What would the point in programming a chatbox myself . What would be the point.
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Why do script kiddies write viruses? To be able to annoy/harrass people without having to put forth any real effort outside the initial development.
In this case, I suggest that you have a goal of testing and refining your chatbot (note: chatBOT not chatBOX) for a class or possibly an advertizing campaign. You want the chatbot to be able to answer the questions of skeptical people that your chatbot will engage on social networking sites. You want to identify winning arguments vs loosing ones. This site is a litmus test of sorts. But your whole plot has been rumbled. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 06:41:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
But it highlights the aspect of them holding a crystal skull, and there really is aa mayan council that is taking 13 crystal skulls. |
And Catholics really walk around with crosses. So what?| Are the mayans themselves admitting something will happen on 2012, and they themselves can use mystical powers to creat some great spiritual awakening. |
Who cares? It's all make-believe. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 07:08:26 [Permalink]
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| But I thought Mayans did not believe in the crystal skulls, this would be a great contradiction. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 07:27:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
But I thought Mayans did not believe in the crystal skulls, this would be a great contradiction.
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Not according to the article you supplied.
The article CLAIMS that they have 13 Mayan elders. No names to be able to validate this nor any word about this from the Mayan Council of Elders. In fact, the President of the Mayan Council of Elders was foremost in 2009 about the 2012 nonsense. He got so tired of answering the claims that he quit doing it. This would be considered yet another bunch of woo.
Anyone can get 13 people to claim anything. Offer them enough money and whammo. 13 homeless hispanics paid a mere pitance will carry these plastic skulls and perform a ritual in gibberish. After all, who speaks Mayan anymore except the Mayans and they are no where near this "ceremony". |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 07:31:06 [Permalink]
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Odd how the picture associated with the article shows nothing about these alledged crystal skulls. Skulls are prominent in Mayan art and religious texts. Nothing new there. Are we sure that these aren't showing normal skulls instead of crystal ones? |
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 08:31:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Are the mayans themselves admitting something will happen on 2012, and they themselves can use mystical powers to creat some great spiritual awakening. |
Actually, they don't. In 2012, one of their calendrical systems will "reset"-- something like when our day-count "resets" once it reaches 365. The Mayans didn't "predict" that anything interesting would happen on this "reset" anymore than any sane person would look at our calendar and think that because we're switching from 2011 to 2012 something bad would happen.
To be sure, if there were some actual prediction, then that would be a different story. But there is no document anywhere that says that when this Mayan calendar resets there will be some sort of amazing event-- spiritual or otherwise. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 08:32:48 [Permalink]
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| I mean I understand that a lot of Mayan artifacts and codices were lost during the Spanish invasion, so anyhting could be found from what I undderstand. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 08:35:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Originally posted by flanagan1000
Are the mayans themselves admitting something will happen on 2012, and they themselves can use mystical powers to creat some great spiritual awakening. |
Actually, they don't. In 2012, one of their calendrical systems will "reset"-- something like when our day-count "resets" once it reaches 365. The Mayans didn't "predict" that anything interesting would happen on this "reset" anymore than any sane person would look at our calendar and think that because we're switching from 2011 to 2012 something bad would happen.
To be sure, if there were some actual prediction, then that would be a different story. But there is no document anywhere that says that when this Mayan calendar resets there will be some sort of amazing event-- spiritual or otherwise.
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So these so called mayan elders that are going around America with crystal skulls (as can be identified here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwam0MY__r8) are not actually practising actual Mayan beliefs, just things that get spouted around by New Age folks, such as the end off the calander being some kind of great spiritual transformation? |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 09:00:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I mean I understand that a lot of Mayan artifacts and codices were lost during the Spanish invasion, so anyhting could be found from what I undderstand.
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It is not likely to contradict what is in the existing body of religious texts. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 09:05:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Originally posted by flanagan1000
Are the mayans themselves admitting something will happen on 2012, and they themselves can use mystical powers to creat some great spiritual awakening. |
Actually, they don't. In 2012, one of their calendrical systems will "reset"-- something like when our day-count "resets" once it reaches 365. The Mayans didn't "predict" that anything interesting would happen on this "reset" anymore than any sane person would look at our calendar and think that because we're switching from 2011 to 2012 something bad would happen.
To be sure, if there were some actual prediction, then that would be a different story. But there is no document anywhere that says that when this Mayan calendar resets there will be some sort of amazing event-- spiritual or otherwise.
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So these so called mayan elders that are going around America with crystal skulls (as can be identified here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwam0MY__r8) are not actually practising actual Mayan beliefs, just things that get spouted around by New Age folks, such as the end off the calander being some kind of great spiritual transformation?
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flanagan, keep with this mixture of meds. It looks like you may have actually showed understanding of the concepts being presented.
The "so called" Mayan elders.... yes. So called. Deviod of evidence of their authenticity.
Not actually practicing Mayan beliefs.... yes again. They are not actually practicing Mayan beliefs.
Newage claptrap and spiritual transformation despite actual verifiable Mayan elders saying that it is nonsense... yes, that is what is happening here. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 09:27:46 [Permalink]
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Can I ask a question. How many mayans actually believe things that the new age movement has spouted out. Such as crystal skulls, contact with E.T/Atlantis, pyramid power, 2012 being some sort of changein trans-dimensional spiritual wellfare/shift in global unity consciounesss.
If not, why is this Mayan group spouting it, this is also the same group that claims it founded the lost codices. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 09:46:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Can I ask a question. How many mayans actually believe things that the new age movement has spouted out. Such as crystal skulls, contact with E.T/Atlantis, pyramid power, 2012 being some sort of changein trans-dimensional spiritual wellfare/shift in global unity consciounesss.
If not, why is this Mayan group spouting it, this is also the same group that claims it founded the lost codices.
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I am not convinced that this is a Mayan group.
It did not find the codexes. It became aware of the existence of the texts which were being stored by a Los Angeles museum.
Many texts and artifacts are not put on display for museums. They do not have the room. They also have them in storage for future exhibits or research into the texts themselves. Museums have precious little funding for research and have conservation as a primary goal. |
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