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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/16/2012 :  17:37:01  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to him, they're "They weren't intellectually the equal of [the Egyptians or Persians] intellectually, morally ... The poor the little Jewish people, they were originally shepherds. They were stuck. They're still stuck between these great powers."

Dont worry though, he apologized:
Historically or culturally unequal might have been more appropriate than intellectually," he said. "My commitment to friendship with the Jewish community, and my esteem for the Jewish faith is a matter of public record, and the last thing I would want to do is give offence to either. This was certainly not my intention, and I am sorry that these points which I tried to make ... did not come out as I would have preferred in the course of the discussion."


All right, you fucker: How would you have wanted to phrase that then? I notice you didn't explain just how you'd have phrased that sentiment in your "apology" of yours.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

On fire for Christ
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 04/16/2012 :  19:14:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think he meant to say they weren't as culturally sophisticated.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/16/2012 :  20:56:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My take on this is that Cardinal George Pell has been trying to send out signals to Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis by paralleling their theme that the Germans were the "real" victims, and by making disparaging remarks about the Jews that he could later "clarify."

In both cases, he's set up his "errors" very deliberately in advance. The deniers will see him as an ally, while he's given himself a rear trench to retreat to when his words are attacked by others. See, he can say, the Jews of that period were technologically and culturally primitive compared to their neighbors. No fault of their own, they were a simple pastoral people is all. Sorry for misusing the word, "intellectual"! My bad.

And as for the Germans suffering more from the Holocaust than the Jews, he'd say, Oh, sorry! I meant God smote the Germans with the D-Day invasion, and they lost the war, while the Jews went on to create Israel!

As with so many antisemites and racists, who know that much of the general public loathes and reviles their views, they can very cautious, often using words with double meanings, one meaning for their intended signal, the other for their retreat position. One needs to looks at the totality of what they are saying, and sift carefully for clues, while not becoming too paranoid.

In reality, the Cardinal is making every signal he can of his antisemitism without instantly giving away his tricksy game.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/16/2012 :  21:17:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think you're giving him too much credit.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 04/16/2012 :  21:33:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

I think you're giving him too much credit.
I don't think that his tactics are at all to his credit, just sneaky. "Jesuitical," you might say.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 04/17/2012 :  00:20:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it would be to someone's credit to be considered that Machiavellian.

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