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Machi4velli
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Posted - 01/23/2013 :  22:39:33  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.examiner.com/article/renowned-author-obama-wants-military-leaders-who-will-fire-on-u-s-citizens

"Renowned author: Obama wants military leaders who will fire on U.S. citizens"

This Nobel Peace Prize nominee is making some really outrageous claims (via unknown sources). He sounds a like the typical conspiracy theorist, but his history seems okay. (Maybe it's not, I don't know, but I guess otherwise reasonable conspiracy theorists have to start somewhere.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzT6X3_Bg9o

This is quite the unbiased interviewer

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
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Machi4velli
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USA
854 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2013 :  22:57:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whoa whoa whoa... is the list of Nobel Peace Prize nominees not even available?!

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/nobel-peace-prize-nominees-2009-list-not-available-till-2059

Oh this Nobel Prize nominee deal might be nonsense (e.g. maybe he was submitted by someone ), but I can't substantiate it either way...

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-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 01/23/2013 :  23:01:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://research-china.blogspot.com/2012/03/review-of-jim-garrows-pink-pagoda.html

Well shit, nothing to see here, move along, regular conspiracy nut with what seems to be an unsubstantiated story about facilitating the adoption of Chinese girls.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 01/23/2013 23:02:51
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 01/23/2013 :  23:14:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh hell, this guy's a mess: he also ascribes the title "Dr." to himself due to an honorary doctorate from a non-accredited theology school in North Carolina.

http://poundpuplegacy.org/node/45036

This maniac may well be selling children, now I'm just angry to have trusted some claim that he was somehow respected enough to Google him.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/24/2013 :  09:47:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Oh hell, this guy's a mess: he also ascribes the title "Dr." to himself due to an honorary doctorate from a non-accredited theology school in North Carolina.

http://poundpuplegacy.org/node/45036

This maniac may well be selling children, now I'm just angry to have trusted some claim that he was somehow respected enough to Google him.
Think of all the other theists who will and are drinking his cool aid and will serve it up to other gullibles insistently. Yummy!! It's what they're all about, God is moral and the proof of that and his existence is right there in the bible. Just pick out the parts that show it while ignoring the multitude of contradictions. What more proof does anyone need? Along with proof of the 6000 y/o earth and as far as they're concerned your the idiot for ignoring their demonstrable made up reality. It's not called "BLIND FAITH" for nothing.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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OregonYankee
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Posted - 01/26/2013 :  12:53:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send OregonYankee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Originally posted by Machi4velli

This maniac may well be selling children, now I'm just angry to have trusted some claim that he was somehow respected enough to Google him.
Think of all the other theists who will and are drinking his cool aid and will serve it up to other gullibles insistently. Yummy!! It's what they're all about, God is moral and the proof of that and his existence is right there in the bible. Just pick out the parts that show it while ignoring the multitude of contradictions. What more proof does anyone need? Along with proof of the 6000 y/o earth and as far as they're concerned your the idiot for ignoring their demonstrable made up reality. It's not called "BLIND FAITH" for nothing.


Easy there, spunky. The guy may be a nut but don't get carried away in your own conspiratorial fantasies that believers - Christians - drink Garrow's KoolAid or that we believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Stay focussed on the bunko without manufacturing your own.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/26/2013 :  14:20:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by OregonYankee

Easy there, spunky. The guy may be a nut but don't get carried away in your own conspiratorial fantasies that believers - Christians - drink Garrow's KoolAid or that we believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Stay focussed on the bunko without manufacturing your own.
Well... sailingsoul didn't say all Christinans are stupid enough to believe the earth is 6000 years old. Only way too many of them.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/26/2013 :  19:18:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by OregonYankee

Easy there, spunky. The guy may be a nut but don't get carried away in your own conspiratorial fantasies that believers - Christians - drink Garrow's KoolAid or that we believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Stay focussed on the bunko without manufacturing your own.
Well... sailingsoul didn't say all Christinans are stupid enough to believe the earth is 6000 years old. Only way too many of them.

I appreciate the tug on my leash OregonYankee, goodness knows I have crossed the line now and them on this forum. However not this time. If you thought I meant "all" as in 100% all Christians you read me wrong. I said "all" as in there are way to many theists who believe in young earth creationism and I said "theist" not Christians. Are you aware that there are Jews who also take the Bible literally and are young earth creationists? It's true!


If you still think I manufactured anything call me on it, again. I'd like to know. And welcome to the forum, it's always nice to have new blood posting.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Machi4velli
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USA
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Posted - 01/26/2013 :  20:55:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx

46% of Americans seem to be YECs by Gallup, which increases to 67% for weekly church attendees, so it's definitely not anywhere nearly as far out as Garrow's fringe.

I'm pretty sure the non-regular-church-attending people having 25% taking this view would imply it's believed by more than half of American Christians, and the 50% threshold is probably cleared even under worst case sampling error (+/- 4%).

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 01/26/2013 :  20:57:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course it leaves a big minority of American Christians (and probably a majority in most of Europe, maybe a smaller minority in other majority Christian countries).

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
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