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sailingsoul
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Posted - 03/06/2013 :  08:54:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It appears, here, Cannabis is credited with health benefits from at least one patient suffering from ALS.
Cathy was diagnosed in 1986 with ALS, a progressive neurodegenerative disease that affects nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, leading to loss of limb control, breathing, swallowing and speech. However, after trying cannabis in 1989, she was able to better manage her symptoms and significantly improve her quality of life. Now, more than 20 years later, Cathy has outlived five of her support groups and four of her neurologists.

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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Posted - 03/06/2013 :  20:14:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what confuses me about medical use of marijuana is that most people still smoke it. Is that the best delivery system for a drug? Should we start smoking all our medicines? Why not isolate the active ingredient/s, put it in a pill or a nasal spray or whatever, and properly regulate it as a pharmaceutical drug?

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/06/2013 :  20:22:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

what confuses me about medical use of marijuana is that most people still smoke it.
Most people who use marijuana for medical purposes either infuse it into cooking oil so it can be ingested in food or inhale it through a vaporizer, which is an alternative to burning.

Why not isolate the active ingredient/s, put it in a pill or a nasal spray or whatever, and properly regulate it as a pharmaceutical drug?
Marinol is already on the market.


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Edited by - H. Humbert on 03/06/2013 20:30:38
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 03/12/2013 :  15:27:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

It appears, here, Cannabis is credited with health benefits from at least one patient suffering from ALS.
Cathy was diagnosed in 1986 with ALS, a progressive neurodegenerative disease that affects nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, leading to loss of limb control, breathing, swallowing and speech. However, after trying cannabis in 1989, she was able to better manage her symptoms and significantly improve her quality of life. Now, more than 20 years later, Cathy has outlived five of her support groups and four of her neurologists.



It's still anecdotal?

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 03/13/2013 :  20:33:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli



It's still anecdotal?
Yes, I suppose it is.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 03/31/2013 :  16:37:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It seems there is more than anecdotal evidence out there.
Link.
Reports of success are circulating among medical Cannabis users and on the internet. They gain plausibility from a parallel stream of papers published in scientific journals establishing that cannabinoids have anti-tumor effects on the cellular level and in animals.
And even babies?
One speaker, Jeffrey Hergenrather, MD, described a particularly dramatic case seen by a San Diego colleague: a 90% reduction in the size of an infantís brain tumor achieved over the course of a year by parents applying hemp oil to the babyís pacifier before naptime and bedtime.
Humm, Maybe I should start putting it on my pacifier too. I hope they keep their name under wraps. Under federal law these parents could be put in prison I would imagine. Surely this is not going away any time soon.

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philevans
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Posted - 07/14/2013 :  15:20:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send philevans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm all for performing thorough research and being "skeptical". But after more than a hundred scientific studies that (almost all) concluded that THC AND CBN drastically reduce tumor growth and activity without harming healthy cells, anyone who remains "skeptical" is either 1)uninformed 2)delusional 3)a paid troll or 4)in possession of scientific studies unknown to rest of us. I have personally spoken with multiple individuals diagnosed with "terminal" forms of cancer by an oncologist who "cured" themselves by using THC oil and now are living "cancer-free", diagnosed as such by the same professional using the very same diagnostical tools which previously diagnosed the subject as "terminal". Additionally, there are many peer-reviewed studies as well. I have 4 such studies on my laptop HD in .pdf format for anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot find on the internet. If after reading the peer-reviewed studies you still are not convinced that Cannabis cures cancer, see #2 above.

Phil
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/14/2013 :  15:41:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the Skeptic Friends Network!
Originally posted by philevans

I have 4 such studies on my laptop HD in .pdf format for anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot find on the internet.
Why not just post the citations here, to make them that much easier to find?

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 07/16/2013 :  05:06:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The weed MAY help "cure" one or two of the 200 or so types of cancer, it WILL cause about six others.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 07/16/2013 :  05:18:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

The weed MAY help "cure" one or two of the 200 or so types of cancer, it WILL cause about six others.
Which types of cancers are those that it causes and what makes you think so BPS?

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Helpfuljosh
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Netherlands
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Posted - 08/13/2014 :  02:53:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Helpfuljosh's Homepage Send Helpfuljosh a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I don't mean to disturb your perfect little world but wouldn't it be nice to do a little research every now and then? There is a lot of bullshit but in a way the girl is right.
We have receptors for the active ingredients in cannabis. This is called the endocannabinoid system. This is also why it is impossible to overdose, your body can handle with this stuff pretty well also because it is non toxic.

Start reading here, only if you want you little world to become a fraction bigger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system

Or here:

http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/the-endocannabinoid-system-and-how-it-works/

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Boron10
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2014 :  09:14:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to SFN, Helpfuljosh!

I have a few questions about your post:

Originally posted by Helpfuljosh


I don't mean to disturb your perfect little world ...

Don't worry! I don't think anybody here claims to have a world that's either perfect or little. Disturb away!
...but wouldn't it be nice to do a little research every now and then?
That is almost all we ever ask.
There is a lot of bullshit but in a way the girl is right.
What bullshit? Which girl? I really don't know what you are trying to say here.
We have receptors for the active ingredients in cannabis. This is called the endocannabinoid system.
Interesting. Tell me more!
This is also why it is impossible to overdose, your body can handle with this stuff pretty well also because it is non toxic.
Can you please explain this more? I don't see how the endocannabinoid system ensures that you can't overdose, and I don't see how you know "it" is non toxic. Which "it" are you referring to, anyway? Marijuana? THC? Any derivative?
Start reading here, only if you want you little world to become a fraction bigger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system

Or here:

http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/the-endocannabinoid-system-and-how-it-works/
Well, I read your first link. It's a little over my head, but I was able to get the gist of it. Your second link seemed a little too much like propaganda, so I only glanced at it. There is also nothing here that expanded my world in any way, but I'm still not entirely sure what you mean by that.
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2014 :  18:42:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Helpfuljosh

We have receptors for the active ingredients in cannabis.
No, we have receptors for the lipid hormones our own body creates. THC also happens to bind to those receptors. It's all right there on the Wikipedia page you linked to.
This is also why it is impossible to overdose, your body can handle with this stuff pretty well also because it is non toxic.
That's quite a leap. We also have receptors that alcohol binds to, but it's toxic.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/15/2014 :  19:59:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dangit, another moment's reflection and I would have figured out that cigarettes and Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors are a better analogy.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/16/2014 :  01:55:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't feel bad, Dave. It happens to all of us.

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