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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/22/2007 :  16:46:30  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am not sure if this should be in the humor section or not.

I got a laugh.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

Edited by - JEROME DA GNOME on 09/22/2007 16:47:44

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Posted - 09/22/2007 :  16:59:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote

What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
Edited by - JEROME DA GNOME on 09/23/2007 06:01:53
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filthy
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Posted - 09/22/2007 :  17:16:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It brings up some interesting questions.

Back in the day, many of our industrialists were pretty tight with Hitler, notably Henry Ford & Prescott Bush, the grandaddy of our current, alledged president.

But should he be allowed to speak to the students at a university? I say yes. I think that students should be exposed to the foul as well as the fair. That way, they'll know what to look for and their instructors can reenforce the lesson.

I feel the same about ID, or rather, the controversy . It is so flimsey that any science teacher worth his/her chalk allotment should be able to shread it into ridicule in less than an hour.




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Posted - 09/22/2007 :  19:38:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The old adage that unpopular speech (like much of Hitler's) should be countered with more speech, and not squashed, has some validity here.

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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  03:50:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, let this hypothetical surviving Hitler speak. And then arrest him for his war crimes.


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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  04:13:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I am not sure if this should be in the humor section or not.

I got a laugh.



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Original_Intent
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  06:45:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Original_Intent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  12:29:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Original_Intent

Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.
Ehh... Whom were you referring to?
Hitler, Henry Ford, Prescott Bush, or George W. Bush?

As far as I know, only one is live enough for someone to casually pop between the yes.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  17:35:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

It brings up some interesting questions.

Back in the day, many of our industrialists were pretty tight with Hitler, notably Henry Ford & Prescott Bush, the grandaddy of our current, alledged president.


I agree this would be an interesting topic.

But should he be allowed to speak to the students at a university? I say yes. I think that students should be exposed to the foul as well as the fair. That way, they'll know what to look for and their instructors can reenforce the lesson.


100% agreed. Yet, the time availably has constraints. Who and how is it decided who gets that time.



What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  17:36:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I am not sure if this should be in the humor section or not.

I got a laugh.



What did you find funny?


The deans answer seemed buffoonish.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  17:39:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Original_Intent

Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.


Why exactly do you explode with such vitriol concerning this man?


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  17:42:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Original_Intent

Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.
Ehh... Whom were you referring to?
Hitler, Henry Ford, Prescott Bush, or George W. Bush?

As far as I know, only one is live enough for someone to casually pop between the yes.


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  02:49:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Oh... Ok, from the link.


Just watched the video, and FOR F*CK'S SAKE!!!! It's FOX NEWS!
What the hell did you expect from them? Jerome... Anything Faux News puts out is neo-con propaganda. And any reaction of outrage about the dean's comments were meant to be provoked by FOX.
The reason you should have put it in the humour section is that the entire "story" is from Fox. We may have our difference of opinion, Jerome, but this time you really disappointed me.

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filthy
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  03:34:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Original_Intent

Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.
Ehh... Whom were you referring to?
Hitler, Henry Ford, Prescott Bush, or George W. Bush?

As far as I know, only one is live enough for someone to casually pop between the yes.
Erm, this one?






"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Original_Intent
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  09:28:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Original_Intent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Original_Intent

Fuck him. He should be permitted to go to arrive at the airport, go to the UN and go the fuck home. No courtesy need be extended this piece of shit.

If they want a conference, then tele-confrence.

I don't say this often, but I truely and deeply hope someone pops a cap in his fuckin head... right between the yes.
Ehh... Whom were you referring to?
Hitler, Henry Ford, Prescott Bush, or George W. Bush?

As far as I know, only one is live enough for someone to casually pop between the yes.


To correct my post, which was aimed at the Iranian President, and it was between the eyes.

I refuse to hope someone assassinates a duly elected offical of the United States (no matter how treasonous/scumbag acting), as he serves as the choice of the people.

The country will always have the government it desrerves.

Aidding and abetting the enemy should always be dealt with with lead.
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  09:38:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send perrodetokio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A decade ago the american people didnīt know Iran existed (except for a small elite). Today iran is the wolfman, dracula and the devil altogether. Go figure!

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