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pleco
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  14:03:37  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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ST. GEORGE, Utah (CNN) -- Polygamist sect leader Warren Steen Jeffs was found guilty Tuesday of being an accomplice to rape for using his religious authority to push a 14-year-old girl into a marriage she did not want.


Good. I hope he rots.

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Edited by - pleco on 09/25/2007 14:06:38

HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  21:12:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wonderful! And now the state of Utah is getting into the act, with their own long list of charges.


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The Rat
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  11:01:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let's hope he's nailed to the wall, but only for the fact that it was an unwilling young girl. As far as polygamy goes let's only be concerned if it's being used to abuse social services for married people. Polyamory is okay with me.


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Boron10
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  11:25:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by pleco

Good. I hope he rots.
Hmm... now it looks as if they're charging the husband with rape. Isn't that a bit backwards?
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  11:48:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Boron10

Originally posted by pleco

Good. I hope he rots.
Hmm... now it looks as if they're charging the husband with rape. Isn't that a bit backwards?
Why or how is that backwards?

Per definition, according to circumstance, having sex with that girl was statutory rape. Just because the laws in Utah are a bit more complicated than, say, Sweden is no excuse.

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Boron10
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  11:52:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Why or how is that backwards?

Per definition, according to circumstance, having sex with that girl was statutory rape. Just because the laws in Utah are a bit more complicated than, say, Sweden is no excuse.
I was referring to the order of trials. Shouldn't we attempt to convict the guy who comitted the act first, then attempt to get the people who helped?
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marfknox
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  12:12:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
pleco wrote:
Good. I hope he rots.
Amen.

Boron10 wrote:
I was referring to the order of trials. Shouldn't we attempt to convict the guy who comitted the act first, then attempt to get the people who helped?
I think a lot of people regard this as a special case since Warren Jeffs is such an extremely charismatic leader and he is helping in a lot of similar cases, so he is certainly doing harm to more than one person. However, I hope they convict that SOB "husband" too. As long as they get them both, I don't care about the order in which they are convicted.

Also, this isn't just statutory rape. The woman claimed to be forcibly raped, as well as being underage. Sick, sick, sick...

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/30/2007 :  14:28:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Boron10

Originally posted by pleco

Good. I hope he rots.
Hmm... now it looks as if they're charging the husband with rape. Isn't that a bit backwards?
I think they are thinking in terms of first "decapitating" the gang, then it might be easier to go after the other bastards. Jeffs, as the "prophet" of the sect, was the key. It was pretty much like throwing the Pope in prison, from the viewpoint of the FLDS. With Jeffs out of the picture, organized cover-up should be that much weaker.


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