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pleco
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  13:40:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

because they would clearly be Jews


Where does it say that they would be Jewish? I'm seriously curious here.

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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  13:55:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by pleco

Where does it say that they would be Jewish? I'm seriously curious here.
If they weren't, then why did the serpent speak Hebrew?


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pleco
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:03:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by pleco

Where does it say that they would be Jewish? I'm seriously curious here.
If they weren't, then why did the serpent speak Hebrew?




Damn! I thought they, like all of God's Chosen, spoke The King's English.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:08:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the serpent could've been a dinosaur

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pleco
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:11:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The serpent could have been literary device. Who knows?

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:14:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no I don't think so

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:23:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

no I don't think so
So you think Satan appeared to Adam and Eve as a talking dinosaur? And you believe that is a stronger possibility than the story being an allegory?


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pleco
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:27:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always thought it was pretty funny of God to not only give the serpent the powers of speech like man, but also let the serpent know about the Trees of Knowledge and Life. I wonder if God had not made the serpent that way, if Adam and/or Eve would had chosen not to eat the fruit.

And then when the serpent talked to Eve, God cursed it and made it eat dust like all serpents we find today.

Too bad no one has ever found the flaming sword either.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:30:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm just saying serpent doesn't have to mean snake.

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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:53:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

I'm just saying serpent doesn't have to mean snake.

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pleco
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  15:01:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

I'm just saying serpent doesn't have to mean snake.

Mr. Deity knows


Those are great!

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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  15:16:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

because they would clearly be Jews
Not that I care a fig, but aren't most modern Jews "caucasian"?


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lorddix
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  16:33:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send lorddix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

the most innaccurate thing it that adam and eve seem to be caucasian


Originally posted by On fire for Christ

because they would clearly be Jews



So what did a Jew of circa 4000 BCE look like?

As a matter of fact what does a Jew look like?

Another question: Should Adam & Eve have looked like a Sephardic Jew an Askhenazic Jew or perhaps an Ethiopian Jew?

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marfknox
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  16:43:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
pleco wrote:
Why is that inaccurate?
Well, I'd say them being caucasian is inaccurate because both the human fossil and DNA evidence reveals the birthplace of Humanity to be in Africa, and caucasian traits evolved later in Europe after early humans spread out all over the "old world. But since literal Biblical Creationists toss out all of evolution and much of science right from the get-go, I'd say that this particular "inaccuracy" is the least of their problems.

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filthy
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  17:06:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Eden story being what it is, A & E could have been of any race or all of them. After all, they were the base pair for the world's population(s) so, well, genetically speaking, they were the biggest mongrels ever. Which might explain the incest-with-impunity amongst their descendent's.

As for talking serpents/dinosaurs/whatever, it ain't on. The reptilian jaw and throat is incapable of any sound beyond a croak, a chirp or a hiss, and in crocodilians, a bellow. Virtually all of the vocalizations they make are done with an echo chamber often involving the lung(s) itself. They have nothing even resembling vocal chords, nor even have room for such an arraignment.




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