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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  14:11:27  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The most recent one could benefit from a spellcheck edit!

[Edited to add the following - Dave W.]

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
25829 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  20:06:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was rushed last night, but still I only found one typo.

Oh, and we are aware that the comment threads are busted. We're working on it.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  16:35:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it was on a hyperlink though, and kept drawing my attention. Only reason I mentioned it, because it was actually distracting from the rest.

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-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
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Dave W.
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USA
25829 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  17:04:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great, so the rest of my text is riddled with non-distracting typos.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  23:00:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This week's could also benefit from a proofread.....

Hint: run is not the word you were trying to type in.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/27/2008 :  23:11:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

This week's could also benefit from a proofread.....
Well, it got two proofreads, but could have used three as a bit of Kilbonics slipped through the filter (me).

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 07/28/2008 :  11:39:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use Word to write my parts. I run a spellcheck. Of course, some same sounding words have more than one meaning and are spelling dependent, and if I have chosen the wrong spelling, a spellchecker usually won't flag it. But I don't send it to Dave raw. Everything that goes out has been checked at least once.

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  01:26:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In Skeptic Summary # 231, the link to Wherein Michael Ruse Avoids My Questions was interesting and invites comment.

In my opinion, Kristine was right to point out Michael Ruse's contemptuous dismissal of her question, and to expose his stupid assertions and off-the-wall non sequiturs. Ruse's idiocy is especially apparent in his "logic" used in calling the teaching of evolution (and even a correct value of pi!) unconstitutional under the Establishment Clause.

What a gift these words from Ruse are to the IDiots at the Discovery Institute!

But then Kristine inserts what stands as a non sequitur of her own: Out of the blue, she claims...
This is a class issue. This is about social class, and how can Ruse understand that? He probably never missed a spring break in Florida or Cancun. (I waitressed, or just stayed home, over my spring breaks.) Education is about providing greater class mobility, whether or not the graduate goes on to make gobs of money. People are not just geocentrists and flat-earthers because they're fundamentalists - they can also be Democrats, union workers, generally liberals, yet geocentrists and flat-earthers because they're uneducated.
The "class issue" thing remains a non sequitur not because Kristine is wrong, but because she did not even begin (except through emotional rhetoric) to defend the validity of the idea.


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Gorgo
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USA
5309 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  03:50:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As to Kil's evil pick, I'd like to state that I'm smarter than Christopher Hitchens. I'd like to, but of course, I'm not. I do wonder if I caught him in a mistake in the Wilson-Hitchens debate. He said that the World Series was named after the New York World. According to Snopes that ain't so.

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Simon
SFN Regular

USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  08:12:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

In Skeptic Summary # 231, the link to Wherein Michael Ruse Avoids My Questions was interesting and invites comment.

In my opinion, Kristine was right to point out Michael Ruse's contemptuous dismissal of her question, and to expose his stupid assertions and off-the-wall non sequiturs. Ruse's idiocy is especially apparent in his "logic" used in calling the teaching of evolution (and even a correct value of pi!) unconstitutional under the Establishment Clause.

What a gift these words from Ruse are to the IDiots at the Discovery Institute!

But then Kristine inserts what stands as a non sequitur of her own: Out of the blue, she claims...
This is a class issue. This is about social class, and how can Ruse understand that? He probably never missed a spring break in Florida or Cancun. (I waitressed, or just stayed home, over my spring breaks.) Education is about providing greater class mobility, whether or not the graduate goes on to make gobs of money. People are not just geocentrists and flat-earthers because they're fundamentalists - they can also be Democrats, union workers, generally liberals, yet geocentrists and flat-earthers because they're uneducated.
The "class issue" thing remains a non sequitur not because Kristine is wrong, but because she did not even begin (except through emotional rhetoric) to defend the validity of the idea.





What Ruse does not understand, and does not want to, is that the Evolution theory, while it has religious implication, also has a value of its own, from a scientific standpoint.

Same thing with the examples she gave, pi, earthquakes, astronomy... They all have some religious implications but go further than that.
And, in fact, schools only teach the non religious implications of these sciences.

ID, on the other hand has not scientific value of its own. One could say it is already being treated exactly as the other sciences. The religious aspects of the 'theory' are dismissed and only the purely scientific side is being taught. Except that, in the case of ID, there is no such purely scientific side to be caught...

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13339 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  09:50:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

As to Kil's evil pick, I'd like to state that I'm smarter than Christopher Hitchens. I'd like to, but of course, I'm not. I do wonder if I caught him in a mistake in the Wilson-Hitchens debate. He said that the World Series was named after the New York World. According to Snopes that ain't so.
Good catch! But in the scheme of things, lets face it. The "World Series" isn't!

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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9645 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  11:05:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

I use Word to write my parts. I run a spellcheck. Of course, some same sounding words have more than one meaning and are spelling dependent, and if I have chosen the wrong spelling, a spellchecker usually won't flag it.

Doesn't those usually get flagged by the grammar-check?


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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13339 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  12:00:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Kil

I use Word to write my parts. I run a spellcheck. Of course, some same sounding words have more than one meaning and are spelling dependent, and if I have chosen the wrong spelling, a spellchecker usually won't flag it.

Doesn't those usually get flagged by the grammar-check?


Not always.

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  21:37:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's one lifted to Kil for his Evil Pick in Skeptic Summary #358 (2/27/2012).

I, too am fascinated by perpetual motion machines. They are often things of beauty, if not utility, and they force one to consider the physical reasons that they never, ever work. PMMs aren't just made by idiots alone, either. Many show a great deal of thought and engineering skill. But the creators of these devices are working against the laws of physics, and must inevitably fail.

My maternal grandfather, "Doc" Wozencraft, was a man who in his youth had ridden cattle drives on the Chisholm Trail. ("Doc" was his cowboy name, not a university degree.) In later years, he built himself a perpetual motion machine. From my father's careful verbal description, it was of the "overbalanced wheel" variety. My father saw it: A beautiful and complex contraption made of bronze or brass, with weighted levers that would flop forward as they passed the apex of the wheel's rotation. My granddad worked on this thing for years, always trying to reduce the friction that he was convinced kept his wheel from turning forever.

Of course, Doc was perfectly right about the friction problem.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular

United Kingdom
1249 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2012 :  22:45:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't believe you're endorsing listverse. The site is blatantly right wing and pro-catholic. Sure many of the lists have nothing to do with either topic, but read enough of them and it becomes evident. There's also a lot of naive science reporting and glaring errors that never get corrected.

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13339 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2012 :  23:54:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

I can't believe you're endorsing listverse. The site is blatantly right wing and pro-catholic. Sure many of the lists have nothing to do with either topic, but read enough of them and it becomes evident. There's also a lot of naive science reporting and glaring errors that never get corrected.
I saw errors too. But I have also seen them on Cracked.com. And of course, the lists are subjective, depending on who's making up the list. Can you give me some specific examples of the site being right wing and pro catholic?

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