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marfknox
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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 Posted - 04/03/2008 : 20:55:30 [Permalink]
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Well, Marf, since I don't make a habit of going to the Fox News website, I didn't notice it until you posted the story. But you're right-- the "have a soda instead" seems a bit odd since nowhere in any of the stories do we find mention of soft drinks.
Does Rupert Murdoch have a large share in Coke or Pepsi? |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 20:56:01 [Permalink]
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FAUX Cartoon News.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/04/2008 : 01:54:32 [Permalink]
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I regard sodas, all of them, as being better than drinking strychnine, but not by much. They're vile-tasting stuff that do nothing for you beyond keeping your bladder flushed. Fox 'News' is pretty much in the same category: downright poisonous.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 05:50:56 [Permalink]
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Not to mention there is some evidence suggesting that the combination of high fructose corn syrup and carbonated water produces a substance that is toxic to your pancreas.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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perrodetokio
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 06:56:37 [Permalink]
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Well, the original report clearly says that drinking enough water will keep you from dehydrating, thus avoiding harm. Which is in it self healthy.
I donīt see the controversy in this, unlike Fucks News.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 07:07:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by perrodetokio
Well, the original report clearly says that drinking enough water will keep you from dehydrating, thus avoiding harm. Which is in it self healthy.
I donīt see the controversy in this, unlike Fucks News.
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There is no controversy. We evolved with plain, ol' water sustaining us and we will shuffle off this mortal coil still requiring it, preferably unpolluted with sticky crap.
I like water lightly diluted with a little tea or cheap whiskey, but mostly I drink it straight.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 07:23:03 [Permalink]
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| The headline is misleading, however that doesnt change the fact that soda or other non-alcoholic beverages will hydrate the body just fine, which is what was claimed. |
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ZeeKrey
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United Arab Emirates
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Posted - 04/22/2008 : 17:51:53 [Permalink]
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It scares me how frequently the media uses catchy, often contradictory headlines for their stories. It is usually to catch attention only to later tell us the truth. Far too often people go around preaching the headline instead of the story because they didn't stay up late enough to hear about it on the 10-O-clock news.
What about the extreme? hyponatremia: The problem with the body's H20 regulation is that it is passive. If the body has too much H20 it puts stress on the kidneys and we dilute our on sodium content and that has been known to kill people with inadequate filtration from their kidney's. The most famous example being the Wii lady:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jan/15/usa
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/22/2008 : 20:04:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ZeeKrey
What about the extreme? hyponatremia: The problem with the body's H20 regulation is that it is passive. If the body has too much H20 it puts stress on the kidneys and we dilute our on sodium content and that has been known to kill people with inadequate filtration from their kidney's. |
Good grief, no! Most cases of hyponatremia have been athletes who've sweated out the sodium required for life, replacing the lost salt water with tap water. It's the reason drinks like Gatorade are now recommended over plain old water, especially in endurance sports. No "stress" on the kidneys or "inadequate filtration" required.
The Wii lady seems to have been hyponatremic because she was drinking lots of water and not peeing, which would result in the same dangerous drop in salt concentration. |
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ZeeKrey
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Posted - 04/23/2008 : 18:59:55 [Permalink]
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| Not peeing is why there was stress on her kidneys is what I meant Dave. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/23/2008 : 19:08:48 [Permalink]
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Actually, I was wrong. Peeing couldn't have saved this woman, because there's no way her kidneys could have eliminated as much water as she drank in the same amount of time.
But the fact is that it was her water intake that reduced her sodium concentration. Kidneys and filtration had nothing to do with it, because she wasn't actually losing sodium. It wasn't so much hyponatremia as it was water intoxication. |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/24/2008 : 12:11:22 [Permalink]
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ZeeKrey wrote: | Far too often people go around preaching the headline instead of the story because they didn't stay up late enough to hear about it on the 10-O-clock news. |
This is true. National Geographic ran this sensational cover:
I was assisting Margaret Downey (the president of the Atheist Alliance International) with a talk about atheism to a class of college students, and one of the students raised his hand and said that even the prestigious National Geographic was questioning evolution. If he had simply opened the magazine up to the article, he would have seen this:
I wonder how many other people like this guy are going around thinking that National Geographic ran a story criticizing evolutionary theory. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/24/2008 : 12:33:21 [Permalink]
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Sad really, that he didn't even notice the question mark at the end of the title.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Fox news misrepresents study on H2O, promotes soda
