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Lisa
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 Posted - 11/04/2001 : 23:22:48 [Permalink]
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ps. It's difficult to comprehend that anyone intelligent enough to post on a site like this, could...... well, perhaps some things are best left unsaid.
Rap Crap is to music what Paint by Numbers is to art.
Snake, for the sake of variety, behave yourself  .
Now I can weigh in on the whole Mel Brooks thing.
His take on Frankenstein was probably his best. If any of you have seen the old (I mean really old) horror movies, he skewered them to a "T". Everything from the camera angles, dialogue, and B&W.
In "High Anxiety", Hitchcock got what he deserved. But the late Marty Feldman was an absolute scream.
"Space Balls" is another matter. Sort of like "Men in Tights". It ran like an overlong SNL skit. Some good memorable moments, but I wondered at times if I was really watching a movie, or something that was overlong for TV.
"Blazing Saddles" took on all of the cliches of the old westerns, and added the racial element. He must have been going through an anti-pc phase, because most of the bad racial jokes somehow made it in there. He had a lot of guts to include the stuff he did. I'm not even sure someone could make a movie like that right now.
Lisa
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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 01:34:39 [Permalink]
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Snake, for the sake of variety, behave yourself .
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If any of you have seen the old (I mean really old) horror movies, he skewered them to a "T". Everything from the camera angles, dialogue, and B&W.
In "High Anxiety", Hitchcock got what he deserved. But the late Marty Feldman was an absolute scream.
"Space Balls" is another matter. Sort of like "Men in Tights". It ran like an overlong SNL skit. Some good memorable moments, but I wondered at times if I was really watching a movie, or something that was overlong for TV.
I HAVE seen all the 'old' monster movies. Christopher Lee is one of my idols. Sigh!!!
BTW, that's the reason I stopped going to movies after I saw Alien, because it wasn't as good as the real clasic monsters. It was a copy and I resented that.
And Hitchcock, well, what can anyone say, he was the MASTER. I have a collection of his films. That's why I do think High Anxiety is funny. Brooks did parody him very well. But not anything else, IMO.
I never watched Saturday Night Live, it's stupid. I don't do drugs so I guess I could never think it's funny. Oh well!
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James
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USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 06:09:04 [Permalink]
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BTW, that's the reason I stopped going to movies after I saw Alien, because it wasn't as good as the real clasic monsters. It was a copy and I resented that.
How is it a copy? What is it a copy of?
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I never watched Saturday Night Live, it's stupid.
If you've never watched it, how do you know it's stupid? They have had great moments on that show. Granted, the current cast aren't exactly up to par when compared to the casts of the late 70's to the early 90's, but they have their moments.
I don't do drugs either, but, like I said, they have their moments.
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 15:54:00 [Permalink]
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I followed SNL for a while and gave up. I'm old enough to remember the "originals". I finally figured out the problem with most of the skits. They'd have a truly funny premise, but the skit would keep going on about 5 minutes after the joke stopped being funny. And no, drugs didn't help. If anything, it made the problem worse. When the attention span is shortened (for what ever reason, cough, cough), a joke has to hit (no pun intended) you and move on.
Although I really did enjoy the Killer Bees.
Lisa
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 20:26:30 [Permalink]
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Just my tew cents......
I'd have to cast a vote for Mel Brooks "The Producers".
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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 20:43:58 [Permalink]
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I followed SNL for a while and gave up. I'm old enough to remember the "originals". I finally figured out the problem with most of the skits. They'd have a truly funny premise, but the skit would keep going on about 5 minutes after the joke stopped being funny.
Lisa
Yes, that about sums it up. I was going to say, you know how it's been said you have 5 mins. to make an impression on someone, or is it 5 seconds? And 1st impressions count. Well, that's why I don't watch most TV shows, James. I didn't have to watch them all the way through to know I didn't like them. The show 'Friends' is another example, several times either in the promo or turning the channel, I NEVER came across a part that was funny. You'd think at least sometime or another if you just happen to catch a glimps, you'd hear some funny joke. So while I never saw it...all the way through, I saw enough to know I'm not interested.
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After I saw Alien, I knew right away it was the same plot of ''It! The Terror from Beyond Space ''. Ok, Alien is more updated and fancy with added story lines and modren speical effects but it's not an orginal idea. It was to my knowlege never compared to the 'orginal'. To be fair I don't read movie reviews but I never heard anyone mention it either. Not until years later when I saw and bought a copy of 'It! The Terror from Beyond Space' did I see any credit for or conection to 'Alien' as was written on the back cover of the box.
If Kil reads this, he will argue with me, we've talked about it before but I still think I'm right.
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/18/2001 : 20:52:19 [Permalink]
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My wife finally got the chance to show me one of her favorite movies, as it finally appeared on American Movie Classics channel. I highly enjoyed it, and recommend everyone see it if they get the chance.
"The Manchurian Candidate"
1962 I believe, and it was apparently very controversial politically.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0056218
You could almost make a drinking game out of it. Every time you see a painting or statue, or someone dressed as, Abraham Lincoln, drink!
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 11/18/2001 : 22:25:30 [Permalink]
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Not until years later when I saw and bought a copy of 'It! The Terror from Beyond Space' did I see any credit for or conection to 'Alien' as was written on the back cover of the box.
If Kil reads this, he will argue with me, we've talked about it before but I still think I'm right.
Snake is correct, I don't agree. Being derivative does not necessarily make for a bad film. How many "atomic" giants have there been in film? "Outland" was a remake of "High Noon." "High Noon" was never mentioned. Any film fan would have caught it. No big deal...
Anyhow, I would recommend seeing the original "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." It is a great social science fiction film.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 11/19/2001 : 00:13:56 [Permalink]
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If Kil reads this, he will argue with me, we've talked about it before but I still think I'm right.
Snake is correct, I don't agree.
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Anyhow, I would recommend seeing the original "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." It is a great social science fiction film.
The Evil Skeptic
I do concur.
WOW! You mean we actually can agree on something.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/19/2001 : 01:30:36 [Permalink]
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The grandkids ganged up on me and forced me to watch a tape of'Shrek'. I found it good enough that I'd like to see it again.
But I'm not much for movies or tv, so here's some books:
Name of a Rose - I haven't seen the flick.
Far Arena, Richard ben Sapir
People of the.... It's a series by Kathern and Michael Gear.
The Travis McGee series by John D. McDonald
The Stand, Stephen King
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Keasy
Catch 22, Joeseph Heller
Lucifer's Hammer, Larry Nivin
Titan, Wizard, and Demon, a trilogy by John Varley
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/19/2001 : 06:15:46 [Permalink]
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Being derivative does not necessarily make for a bad film.
Wasn't it Joseph Campbell who was talking about how all the stories have already been told, but we want and need for them to be told over and over, and in new ways?
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Donnie B.
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 11/19/2001 : 15:07:41 [Permalink]
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Being derivative does not necessarily make for a bad film.
Wasn't it Joseph Campbell who was talking about how all the stories have already been told, but we want and need for them to be told over and over, and in new ways?
And he inspired Lucas to do just that, in a little flick called "Star Wars"...
-- Donnie B.
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Espritch
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 11/19/2001 : 20:43:26 [Permalink]
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"Life of Brian" is still the best comedy ever made.
As far as movies of more recent vintage, I really liked "Toy Story" and "The Nightmare before Christmass" (I wonder what it says about me that some of my favorite movies are animated flicks obstensibly for children).
P.S. I liked "Dark Star" also. The scene where they discuss philosophy with the bomb was brilliant.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 11/20/2001 : 00:51:13 [Permalink]
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I highly enjoyed it, and recommend everyone see it if they get the chance.
"The Manchurian Candidate"
1962 I believe, and it was apparently very controversial politically.
Yes, a true classic, IMO. I vagely remember some controversy but it's been years since I've seen it. And many movies of that era were controversial.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 11/20/2001 : 01:06:08 [Permalink]
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"Life of Brian" is still the best comedy ever made.
Still haven't gotten around to seeing it, I have high expectations. It's been recomended to me many times. Perhaps it will be on PBS some day soon.
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As far as movies of more recent vintage, I really liked "Toy Story" and "The Nightmare before Christmass" (I wonder what it says about me that some of my favorite movies are animated flicks obstensibly for children).
I hardly think Nightmare is for young children....just 'cause it's animated doesn't mean anything. LOL, no one under 18 or was it 21 could get in to see 'Fritz the Cat'.
Tim Burton is a genius, as famous as he is too bad he's not as big as some other directors.
I have not only a copy of 'Nightmare/Xmas', but the sound track, AND the watch that McDonalds was giving away (or was it Burger King), anyhow I have that and some other memorabilia. I love that movie.
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P.S. I liked "Dark Star" also. The scene where they discuss philosophy with the bomb was brilliant.
Those kind of films one doesn't get to see too often, damn it.
 I have a movie poster from that film, bought it in London. What do you think I could get if I put it up for auction?
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