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verlch
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  14:28:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sintacks

The great whore spoken of in Revelation is basically Christianity as we know it today. It really speaks of the Catholic church, but it extends down through most Protestantism also.




Sure the whole is corrupt. But the bible says that the number that is in heaven shall exceed the numbers of the sands of the seas. So there has to be some 'good' coming from somewhere!!!!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  14:29:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

quote:
'mammon' it shall be


Can I get a side of fries with that mammon? Ans hold the onions.



Sure I'm sure the Devil would give you some wealth in exchange for your soul!!!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  14:33:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

quote:
Originally posted by Sintacks

The great whore spoken of in Revelation is basically Christianity as we know it today. It really speaks of the Catholic church, but it extends down through most Protestantism also.

So... only Pentacostals and Southern Baptists are going to be Raptured?




Who said anything about a rapture. The bible speaks nothing about a rapture. Jesus comes back to rescue the Living in Christ. Goes back to Heaven and thats it. The Dead in Christ, and the Living in Christ. The Dead go first then the Living.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  15:28:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Sure I'm sure the Devil would give you some wealth in exchange for your soul!!!


I'm a little short on soul this month, but I've got sarcasm to spare. What would Old Nick would trade for that? I could use a new set of irons. By the way, is he on e-bay?

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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moakley
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  21:03:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

Than you serve mammon and the devil.

The devil!!! Another entity whose entire existence requires faith. Faith: A firm belief in an assertion without proof.

The devil who motivates christian belief through fear. You can't prove the devil exists through any empirical evidence and yet you fear him. That's irrational or a best a superstition.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  23:10:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Mammon...hmm...man and material wealth. Definitely, that'd be my choice. I'll take one of each.
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Ricky
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Posted - 09/19/2004 :  16:19:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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The devil!!! Another entity whose entire existence requires faith. Faith: A firm belief in an assertion without proof.


I know I'm just being picky with word usage, but watch how you use the word "proof". "Evidence" would be a better choice.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/20/2004 :  08:46:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

http://www.hebroots.com/babylon.html

The New Age is slowly coming upon us gentleman, be prepared to pick sides sooner than you think. If you already haven't picked sides!!!!!



Unsupported assertation #156.

Yawn.




Well sounds like you've picked your side, 'mammon' it shall be.



You and your ilk have been predicting the end of the world for 1900 years. And since you have no evidence for it, I can safely say that your prediction is bullshit, just like your combination ad hominem and appeal to consequences.

I've been called worse names by better men than you, fundie troll.

I've already picked my side. You just think it's different than yours.

Why don't you play hide and go fuck yourself?

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/20/2004 :  08:48:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

I hate to ask, I could look it up or guess, what is mammon?



Mammon is a psuedonym for The Devil, Old Scratch, Satan, Beelezebub, The Dark Lord, Lord of Lies, etc. The Christian personification of Evil in demi-god form.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/20/2004 :  16:06:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I didn't know that Babylon is a great whore. Is she a greater whore than the triple-breasted Ecentrica Gallumbits, the best bang since the Big One?



Does Babylon live at Eroticon 6 too?

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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filthy
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Posted - 09/20/2004 :  17:31:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I didn't know that Babylon is a great whore. Is she a greater whore than the triple-breasted Ecentrica Gallumbits, the best bang since the Big One?



Does Babylon live at Eroticon 6 too?


It's been a while since I read The Guide (I also have the tapes). I coundn't remember where Ecentrica was from. And I paraphrased a bit, as I'm sure other Hitchikers here have noticed.

Ah, Doug Adams, but we do miss you so.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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furshur
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Posted - 09/21/2004 :  07:42:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
I hate to be politically correct but shouldn't we change "Babylon the great whore" to "Babylon the great lady of the evening" or something.

I mean Babs is just trying to earn a living!

If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 09/22/2004 :  05:23:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

http://www.hebroots.com/babylon.html

The New Age is slowly coming upon us gentleman, be prepared to pick sides sooner than you think. If you already haven't picked sides!!!!!

You are going to be soooo disapointed when you die.

-Chaloobi

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 09/22/2004 :  05:37:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Nope, he will only be dead when he dies.

quote:
Sure I'm sure the Devil would give you some wealth in exchange for your soul!!!


Do you have a number or address where he can be reached?

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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ktesibios
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Posted - 09/23/2004 :  09:57:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Nope, he will only be dead when he dies.

quote:
Sure I'm sure the Devil would give you some wealth in exchange for your soul!!!


Do you have a number or address where he can be reached?



Try Sinfest. If you browse through the archives a bit, you're bound to find him manning (deviling?) his "Anything You Want" booth.

quote:
Originally posted by Furshur
I hate to be politically correct but shouldn't we change "Babylon the great whore" to "Babylon the great lady of the evening" or something.

I mean Babs is just trying to earn a living!



The customary term nowadays is "sex worker". And if she has a problem with wages or working conditions, she can join the Wobblies- there's an Industrial Unit (IU660) dedicated to sex workers.



"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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