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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  11:36:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message


Originally posted by pleco

Then Big buffoons haven't taken into consideration the fact that gravity exist.


Do you think BNB (Big NASA Buffoons) have steered Cassini into that incredible trajectory because of gravity?

Explain clearly your opinion, please.




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pleco
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  14:18:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Yes.

No. Already has been ad nauseum.


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Edited by - pleco on 11/25/2005 14:20:28
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/25/2005 :  14:31:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

If Cassini, starting from the Earth has already velocity of 65,000 miles per hour (Earth's velocity), it has reduced dramatically its speed turning two times round the sun and passing near Venus.
Let's see.

From launch to the first Venus flyby was about 386 million miles (MM) over 193 days, for an average speed of 83,438 MPH.

From there to the second Venus flyby was 648 MM over 424 days, for an average of 63,689 MPH.

From there to the Earth flyby was just 142 MM over 55 days (!), for a peak average speed of 108,108 MPH.

Then onto Jupiter after another 499 MM over 500 days, for an average of 41,621 MPH.

And then the slowest leg of the journey, the 1,279-day trip of 523 MM between Jupiter and Saturn, averaging just 17,045 MPH.

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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  06:47:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

"Originally posted by bigbrain

If Cassini, starting from the Earth has already velocity of 65,000 miles per hour (Earth's velocity), it has reduced dramatically its speed turning two times round the sun and passing near Venus".


...
Then onto Jupiter after another 499 MM over 500 days, for an average of 41,621 MPH.
And then the slowest leg of the journey, the 1,279-day trip of 523 MM between Jupiter and Saturn, averaging just 17,045 MPH.


You agree with me: Big NASA Buffoons has reduced dramatically Cassini's velocity making the probe to turn two times round the sun and passing near Venus.
Therefore BNB are emeritus idiots.



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Edited by - bigbrain on 11/26/2005 06:55:20
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filthy
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  07:05:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by Dave W.

"Originally posted by bigbrain

If Cassini, starting from the Earth has already velocity of 65,000 miles per hour (Earth's velocity), it has reduced dramatically its speed turning two times round the sun and passing near Venus".


...
Then onto Jupiter after another 499 MM over 500 days, for an average of 41,621 MPH.
And then the slowest leg of the journey, the 1,279-day trip of 523 MM between Jupiter and Saturn, averaging just 17,045 MPH.


You agree with me: Big NASA Buffoons has reduced dramatically Cassini's velocity making the probe to turn two times round the sun and passing near Venus.
Therefore BNB are emeritus idiots.




Sooo, quote mining, I see.

I am disappointed. I had thought that that was beneath even you.


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Randy
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  07:24:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/11/26/japan.probe.ap/index.html

You just gotta like this news!

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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  09:01:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

You agree with me: Big NASA Buffoons has reduced dramatically Cassini's velocity...
No, the Sun did that all by itself.

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pleco
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  09:25:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Dave W. posted AVERAGES, not a graph showing velocity over time. Go to the wikipedia entry for this mission and they have a graph showing sun-relative velocity for the probe from launch. It is quite easy to see why the boost was needed, unless you don't believe the data. If you don't believe the data, there is no point in discussing unless you have your own graph.

Will you ever show us a diagram of your approach to launching this probe, with data taking into account gravity?

Will you ever answer the question: Do man-made satellites exist in orbit right now?

Now move on to another topic that has already been discussed, basically because you have run out of things to "discuss".

Maybe we should discuss if the Russians were able to sucessfully launch Sputnik, since that little satellite started this whole thing. At that point, you can explain how anyone could pick up the signal Sputnik was emitting if Sputnik was faked.

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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  10:32:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Randy:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/11/26/japan.probe.ap/index.html

You just gotta like this news!


Here is a picture of comet Itokawa:



This is just a ginger root not a comet!

There are no stars in the picture!

The Japanese are big buffoons!

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pleco
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  10:42:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Ginger root is a very kind description of what that actually looks like! ;-)

You'd think that if NASA (plus other countries' space programs) really wanted to cover up, they would add stars to their photos.

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Edited by - pleco on 11/26/2005 10:42:55
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bigbrain
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  13:48:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by R.Wreck
Here is a picture of comet Itokawa:



This is just a ginger root not a comet!
There are no stars in the picture!
The Japanese are big buffoons!



No, it's not a ginger root, it's a potato, but the Japanese are only amateurs.

The real professionals are only BNB (Big NASA Buffoons).
Look at this drawing:

BNB can steer their probe in these incredible evolutions with their PMJ (Patented Magic Joystick) connected to their computers.

They enjoy themselves a lot.
They are like children.




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pleco
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  13:55:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Q: Will you ever show us a diagram of your approach to launching this probe, with data taking into account gravity?

BIGGIEFRIES: No Answer.

Q: Will you ever answer the question: Do man-made satellites exist in orbit right now?

BIGGIEFRIES: No Answer.

You, sir and/or madam, suck.

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Randy
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  14:17:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
Oh my, oh my, oh my, Bigbrain....what is the color of the sky in your world?

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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  14:30:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Randy

Oh my, oh my, oh my, Bigbrain....what is the color of the sky in your world?

...


It's blue with a lot of resplendent stars.



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filthy
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  14:35:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Well then, according to you, the Italians are big buffoons as well....

But ok, you want stars in a photo, so here's one with some. I only wonder why so few. Supernova:



There should be thousands of stars -- the pic's gotta be a fake.

Here's an artist's conception and we all know how phonied up those things are:



Only an idiot would believe that swindle.

And surely no no one in his right mind would buy this tripe!



Orion Constellation and nebular regions hah? It looks like an acid flashback, probably one of yours, to me.

Edited to add that my point is made for me. BBBB sees stars in a blue sky.




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Edited by - filthy on 11/26/2005 14:42:26
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