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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 03/18/2006 : 16:32:37 [Permalink]
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Snake:
BTW, South Park has only been on Los Angeles stations a short time, it was not on TV here before so I couldn't have seen it. Thank goodness!
It has been on Comedy Central on Los Angeles stations since it began. Thank goodness for that because it is such a great show…
As for you Snake, no accounting for taste I guess…
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 21:31:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Snake
Not from my POV. I find the art work uninteresting. And the jerky motion of the characters gives me a 'headache'. The voices are annoying. And again I tried to watch it, even a little longer this time to give it a fair chance, but NO, it's just not that funny.
I can forgive the art work in Family Guy, which isn't all that bad because the acting is great and it IS SO funny.
The Simpsons, the art and direction is OUTSTANDING. Some individual shows have so much quality it's a shame it probably is under appreciated because of the audience it's aimed towards.
The artwork in South Park is intentional and I think it took a lot of skill to make the cartoon look like cardboard cutouts (they originally were, but they aren't anymore) and that has a certain appeal.
The voices are the creator's manipulated to sound like kid voices.
Personally I think South Park is one of the most clever television shows (not just cartoon) to come out in a long, long time.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 22:17:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
The artwork in South Park is intentional and I think it took a lot of skill to make the cartoon look like cardboard cutouts (they originally were, but they aren't anymore) and that has a certain appeal.
I suppose any show takes some skill. But IMO it's not that great. But then I don't like David Hockney either. I think he's boring but a lot of people like him. Whatever!
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Personally I think South Park is one of the most clever television shows (not just cartoon) to come out in a long, long time.
That's exactly what I was saying about the Simpsons.
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To each his own.
Yes, thank you, that is correct.
Some people like boring things, some like a higher quality. To each his own. |
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Ghost_Skeptic
SFN Regular
Canada
510 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 22:18:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Anyhow, so this Hays fellow is a Scientologist? Call me a bigot if you must, but that puts him in with some pretty vile and slimy company, in my book. I think that calling it a cult is giving the bastards too much credit.
I think scam might be a more appropriate term.
That is why it's adherents object so strongly to any criticism. They don't want to admit how they have been fleeced by something that was made up by a second rate science fiction writer. |
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History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms
"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 23:35:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
....made up by a second rate science fiction writer.
Hey, Battlefield Earth is one of my all time favorite books. Of course L Ron did churn out the stories for a living rather than as an author might write because of a creative urge. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2006 : 02:49:50 [Permalink]
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Operation Clambake has a lot of info on the Scientologists. A great deal of it is pretty grim.
Also: Scientology, it's worse than you may know. Here, as well as at Clambake, can be found such gems as this: quote:
Ms. Paulette Cooper spoke the truth about Scientology®, and for that "crime" the organization framed her for two counts of a felony (sending bomb threats via United States Postal Service), followed by a count of "perjury" when she told the Grand Jury she was innocent. Later the United State's Federal Bureau of Investigation raided the crime syndicate and discovered documents that proved they had framed Ms. Cooper and that she was innocent (the FBI missed the 80,000+ documents hidden in cargoship containers stored at the Los Angeles Harbor--- documents that may have set free from prison other victims of Scientology's frame-ups).
And this: quote:
Scientology's® Assault of
Paulette Cooper
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Bomb threats forged by the Church of Scientology
Documents of the United States District Court, District of Columbia, Washington, DC 20001. Criminal Case Number 78-401. United States of America vs Mary Sue Hubbard, Jane Kember, and Morris Budlong.
These letters were sent by the Church of Scientology to itself. These were made to look as though they had been sent by Paulette Cooper. Both letters had been typed on her typewriter on paper which had her fingerprints on it.
Scientology promptly contacted the FBI regarding "threats against a Church."
Followed by the bomb threat letters.
Celebrities show up in the membership simply because the Scientologists stalk them. It's all part of the scam. Clambake has a list of '50s celebrities that Hubbard issued to be recruited. Oddly, Billy Graham shows up on it.
In short, Scientology Inc. is an organization comprised of of vicious assholes that should be harassed as they harass others at every opportunity, and ultimatly stamped out like the vermin that they are.
So wave bye-bye to Isaac and hope that he and others seek treatment soon.......
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
800 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 03:45:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
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Originally posted by filthy
Anyhow, so this Hays fellow is a Scientologist? Call me a bigot if you must, but that puts him in with some pretty vile and slimy company, in my book. I think that calling it a cult is giving the bastards too much credit.
I think scam might be a more appropriate term.
That is why it's adherents object so strongly to any criticism. They don't want to admit how they have been fleeced by something that was made up by a second rate science fiction writer.
Back when I was still at University, and working interstate, I was approached for a "free personality test" by a generic person-with-clipboard. As it was, I was just wandering around, killing time on a weekend (Adelaide's an exciting place, honest) so figured what the hell. I got to answer a bunch of questions, and then, because I was such a curious young lad, I wanted a little more information and got shown the special machine.
It's essentially a galvanometer with a couple of metal cylinders attached to the contacts which you hold in your hands while you answer even more questions. Cult members call it an E meter. I asked what it measures, the response was "thoughts". That pretty much summed it up for me and I was out of there shortly afterwards. They try pretty hard though, once I was through, the person who'd profiled me brings out the first in the Dianetics book series and asks "This is what you need to get started, it's $10.95, do you need change?". (I imagine a lot of people would be put off by the directness, and fork out the cash out of embarrassment or just to get out of there ASAP). I managed a "No thanks", and I was on my merry way.
Ever the good sceptic, and before the Internet was such a wealth of information, I thought I'd do a little more research myself, and ended up buying the book from a second hand store for around $2. It's not an entirely bad read. Of course the science is poor (or non-existent in parts) but I can understand the appeal it may have to some people. The reasoning sounds scientific in some sections. Of course, they save the super-loopy stuff until you're a proper member and up to your eyeballs. A nasty group by all accounts. |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 01:20:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JohnOAS
Back when I was still at University, and working interstate, I was approached for a "free personality test" by a generic person-with-clipboard. As it was, I was just wandering around, killing time on a weekend (Adelaide's an exciting place, honest) so figured what the hell. I got to answer a bunch of questions, and then, because I was such a curious young lad, I wanted a little more information and got shown the special machine.
It's essentially a galvanometer with a couple of metal cylinders attached to the contacts which you hold in your hands while you answer even more questions. Cult members call it an E meter. I asked what it measures, the response was "thoughts". That pretty much summed it up for me and I was out of there shortly afterwards. They try pretty hard though, once I was through, the person who'd profiled me brings out the first in the Dianetics book series and asks "This is what you need to get started, it's $10.95, do you need change?". (I imagine a lot of people would be put off by the directness, and fork out the cash out of embarrassment or just to get out of there ASAP). I managed a "No thanks", and I was on my merry way.
Ever the good sceptic, and before the Internet was such a wealth of information, I thought I'd do a little more research myself, and ended up buying the book from a second hand store for around $2. It's not an entirely bad read. Of course the science is poor (or non-existent in parts) but I can understand the appeal it may have to some people. The reasoning sounds scientific in some sections. Of course, they save the super-loopy stuff until you're a proper member and up to your eyeballs. A nasty group by all accounts.
You went farther than I did, haha.
Many, many, many years ago when it was 1st getting started I too saw that test. As one who like to answer questions I started reading it over. When they started getting a little TOO personal I thought... Check please! I was out of there.
Some, maybe a lot of people need or want something like that in their life. The Catholics have done the same thing, threaten people. That's just the way a lot of humans are, sheep. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/21/2006 : 06:20:06 [Permalink]
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FYI this episode of South Park was hilarious at one point they explain the goofy as hell level 3 beliefs of the Scientologists for about 90 seconds and the whole time at the bottom of the screen it says "This is what Scientologists actually believe!"
"...and then the Dark Lord Xenu dropped the criminal aliens into a volcano and used giant soul collectors..." Great stuff, they are gonna regret this, I sense the sequel to the south park movie might have this topic.
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 08:07:06 [Permalink]
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Here we go....
'South Park' kills off 'Chef' -- maybe quote:
"A lot of us don't agree with the choices the Chef has made in the last few days," one of the children eulogizes him at a funeral. "Some of us feel hurt and confused that he seemed to turn his back on us. But we can't let the events of the past few weeks take away the memories of how Chef made us smile.
"We shouldn't be mad at Chef for leaving us," the eulogy concludes. "We should be mad at that fruity little club for scrambling his brains."
Prepare for Darth Chef....
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 08:11:39 [Permalink]
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| Saw it last night ... pretty amusing. Equating Scientologist to child molesters was a great touch IMHO. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 12:12:50 [Permalink]
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Then he turned immortal, until he was hit by a bus in 1972.
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 20:57:58 [Permalink]
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Do you believe in reincarnation? Here's a bit of an update on this story, for what it's worth...quote South Park: "The Return of Chef" (from ign.com):
One of the great things about South Park is that because the show is so quickly and crudely produced, they can have episodes on the air that are amazingly topical, often commenting on headlines that just occurred. And you knew there was no way there were going to let something like Hayes quitting the show go by without commenting upon it. "The Return of Chef" began with a fake "Previously on South Park" segment that showed Chef deciding to leave town and join a group called The Super Adventurers Club to travel around the world, as all of the kids (Cartman included!) got emotional and wept. But in the premiere Chef returns, and everyone rejoices... until they notice something isn't quite right with him.
In an extremely funny move, Parker and Stone took previously recorded footage of Hayes from old episodes and awkwardly spliced it together to create new dialogue for Chef. Chef it seems came back to South Park with a shocking new fondness for sex with children, and one of the episodes running jokes had Chef continually begin to sing his popular "I'm Gonna Make Love to you Woman" song, except "woman" was replaced with every rude and crude thing you can think that involved children and their bodies. Suffice to say, the show isn't getting any more family friendly as time goes on.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 04:28:27 [Permalink]
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html
Weird.....
Yea, its from Faux News but the qoute from AV Club is correct-quote:
AVC: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you?
IH: Well, I talked to Matt and Trey about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, "Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that shit, you know?" But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses, and understand what we do. [Laughs.]
Then why did Hayes leave SP four months later?
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/25/2006 : 13:03:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Then he turned immortal, until he was hit by a bus in 1972.
Classic (not an exact quote)
??? I thought the show ended with the chef as Darth Vader scene. What did I miss about a bus? |
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