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Fripp
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  07:03:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by GK Paul
If you agree to apologize if I can show I have responded to a post you've made I'll take the time to look it up.



Oh, FUCK YOU, you little snot-nosed punk. You stick your nose in here, starting with your oh-so-high praise for a piece of shit book by Ann Coulter, continue to lie, misrepresent, avoid answering direct question, and therefore insult everyone here with your little sanctimonious god-boy crap...and now you want US to apologize to YOU?!?!?

Why don't go FUCK yourself, you GUTLESS TURD!

To the moderators and the general audience, I apologize for my rant above. Little, bible-clutching turds like this chap my hide somedays.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

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Starman
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  07:15:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Fripp

To the moderators and the general audience, I apologize for my rant above. Little, bible-clutching turds like this chap my hide somedays.

As Dave W. noted, GK Paul is an adolescent so your rant might be a little harsh. Maybe just a tad.


"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  07:39:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Turnabout being fair play and all, perhaps the best course of action is simply to ignore GK Paul until he stops being rude and apologizes to all of us.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  10:02:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Fripp

quote:
Originally posted by GK Paul
If you agree to apologize if I can show I have responded to a post you've made I'll take the time to look it up.



Oh, FUCK YOU, you little snot-nosed punk. You stick your nose in here, starting with your oh-so-high praise for a piece of shit book by Ann Coulter, continue to lie, misrepresent, avoid answering direct question, and therefore insult everyone here with your little sanctimonious god-boy crap...and now you want US to apologize to YOU?!?!?

Why don't go FUCK yourself, you GUTLESS TURD!

To the moderators and the general audience, I apologize for my rant above. Little, bible-clutching turds like this chap my hide somedays.

No need to apologize to me. Nor to GK, I think.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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GK Paul
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  15:10:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GK Paul a Private Message
My personal opinion on this Caesar's Messiah thing is that Atwill, the businessman from California, saw the incredible money Dan Brown made off Jesus and he's trying to get a piece of the action.

Use some Historical names and places, invent some bizarre plot, mix it all together and hope the people buy it. If the dates don't add up, so what, 99% of the people don't know the dates. The spirit of Judas is alive and well. Why do you think there was Rocky 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.. The millions Dan Brown made mixing fact and fiction is just too tempting to these atheistic businessmen/wannabe novelists.

Since none of you will probably ever get the book - and I don't blame you - here's a link that says Josephus (a respected historian who wrote prolifically on Jewish history) was in on the fictional caper to dupe his own people.

http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/rev_atwill.htm


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GK Paul
Edited by - GK Paul on 12/07/2006 16:24:51
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Kil
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  19:29:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
GK Paul:
Use some Historical names and places, invent some bizarre plot, mix it all together and hope the people buy it.

Hmmmmm... Sounds like Ann Coulter to me.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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leoofno
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  20:33:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send leoofno a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
GK Paul:
Use some Historical names and places, invent some bizarre plot, mix it all together and hope the people buy it.

Hmmmmm... Sounds like Ann Coulter to me.


You couldn't leave well enough alone, could you?

Now this whole thing is going to start again....

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Starman
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  00:23:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
GK Paul:
Use some Historical names and places, invent some bizarre plot, mix it all together and hope the people buy it.

Hmmmmm... Sounds like Ann Coulter to me.
I was thinking about the New Testament.


"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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GK Paul
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  03:13:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GK Paul a Private Message
Getting back to the bizarre Caesar's Messiah why don't we let the businessman Atwell speak for himself. He states that there are some inconsistencies in the events after the Resurrection. Such as how many people were with Mary Magdalene. He states:

" Since I had already realized that nothing was inadvertent in the Gospels, I wondered about the purpose of these contradictions. My efforts to answer this question led me to discover another, more logical, way to understand the New Testament stories of Jesus' resurrection than any I had heard of previously: that the four different versions create one story that should be read intertextually."

He than says "This reading (intertextually) reveals that Jesus does not rise from the dead. Rather Mary Magdalene simply mistakes Lazarus' empty tomb for the tomb of Jesus. This misunderstanding then sets off a comedy of errors during which the disciples mistake one another for angels and thereby delulde themsellves into believing that their Messiah has risen from the dead. This combined story also completes the joke I discussed in the previous chapter - that since the real Messiah, Lazarus, has been eaten, his tomb is therefore empty. To understand this combined story is quite simple, requiring only that the reader think logically" (CM Pg 125)

So Atwill says "the real Messiah, Lazarus, has been eaten..." Maybe this might explain Robert Price's severe review of the book.



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"The existence of a Being endowed with intelligence and wisdom is a necessary inference from a study of celestial mechanics" --Sir Isaac Newton


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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  06:21:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman
I was thinking about the New Testament.


My thoughts almost exactly. I thought "Old & New Testament"

With the disclaimer that money wasn't the motive. Power was.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  10:33:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by GK Paul

So Atwill says "the real Messiah, Lazarus, has been eaten..." Maybe this might explain Robert Price's severe review of the book.
If you would actually read Price's review (which you linked to, GK Paul, in the other thread), Price explains quite clearly why his review is so severe, and it has nothing to do with the phrase "the real Messiah, Lazarus, has been eaten..."

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