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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 03/18/2007 : 07:01:30 [Permalink]
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Bigbrain, me ol' sport! Yer back! Excellent! It's excellent 'cause I have an elasmobranch that'll knock yer socks off:
Unknown elasmobranch(s) 
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
 Posted - 03/18/2007 : 07:21:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by McQ
There was a raw image of Saturn published recently on the Cassini-Huygens mission that looked fake, or at least very odd, to the casual observer. It is this one:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/McQ14/Misc/PIA08362-br500.jpg
It appears that the planet itself is not inside the rings, but sitting on top or on in front of them. Maybe this was the inspiration for trying to claim faked photos of Saturn? Thought it was an interestingcoincidence that this new fakery claim came up just a few weeks after this photo was published.
Below is the original public posting from Astronomy Picture of the Day...
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070306.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0703/saturnfromabove_cassini_big.jpg
Course, the nay-sayers ignorance of Photography 101 screams out with this one. Easy to see the camera's aperture was opened up a bit to capture the softer light reflecting from the rings, which by doing so caused the brighter direct sunlit surface to blow out.
The "floating planet above the rings" effect, again, is Photo 101, as we know. Concerning the lower part of the planet's over-exposure and so-called 'missing' ring detail....the camera can't handle the harsh contrast between the over-exposed surface and subtle ring detail.
One thing the image does give up in that area...look at the lowest part of the terminator (shadow) line, where one expects the curvature of the planet receding away from the sun to 'give up' a tiny bit of ring detail to the camera. Look close, there it is, where expected....
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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McQ
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 08:55:52 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Randy
quote:
Originally posted by McQ
There was a raw image of Saturn published recently on the Cassini-Huygens mission that looked fake, or at least very odd, to the casual observer. It is this one:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/McQ14/Misc/PIA08362-br500.jpg
It appears that the planet itself is not inside the rings, but sitting on top or on in front of them. Maybe this was the inspiration for trying to claim faked photos of Saturn? Thought it was an interestingcoincidence that this new fakery claim came up just a few weeks after this photo was published.
Below is the original public posting from Astronomy Picture of the Day...
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070306.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0703/saturnfromabove_cassini_big.jpg
Course, the nay-sayers ignorance of Photography 101 screams out with this one. Easy to see the camera's aperture was stepped up a bit to capture the softer light reflecting from the rings, which by doing so caused the brighter direct sunlit surface to blow out.
The "floating planet above the rings" effect, again, is Photo 101, as we know. Concerning the lower part of the planet's over-exposure and so-called 'missing' ring detail....the camera can't handle the harsh contrast between the over-exposed surface and subtle ring detail.
One thing the image does give up in that area...look at the lowest part of the terminator (shadow) line, where one expects the curvature of the planet receding away from the sun to 'give up' a tiny bit of ring detail to the camera. Look close, there it is, where expected....
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 09:49:09 [Permalink]
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 11:22:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Bigbrain, me ol' sport! Yer back! Excellent! It's excellent 'cause I have an elasmobranch that'll knock yer socks off:
http://www.sharkattacks.com/more8.jpg
Unknown elasmobranch(s)
Ehew!.....Not much left there. Shark attack. Wonder if he's wearing a Timex....Takes a licking, keeps on ticking.
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Einstein-2
SockPuppet
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 12:48:20 [Permalink]
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Then that image is an artist work.
This is another artist work:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/image-details.cfm?imageID=613
Why did Huygens never take a REAL photo of Cassini?
Look at this REAL image:
SHADOW LINES:
THIS IS A REAL IMAGE, BUT THE SHADOW LINES ARE STILL WRONG.
THEY SHOULD BE PARALLEL BECAUSE OF THE ENORMOUS DISTANCE OF THE SUN, BUT THE NASA BUFFOON ARTIST HAS MADE A WRONG IMAGE.
HA, HA, HA 
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:03:48 [Permalink]
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Isn't there a way to block BigBrain for good?
Other than having him shot by the NASA buffoons, that is. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Einstein-2
SockPuppet
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:19:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
Isn't there a way to block BigBrain for good?
Other than having him shot by the NASA buffoons, that is.
Try to confute my statement instead of saying ...
Radius of the sun 700.000 km
Distance sun - Saturn: 1.492.000.000 km
Take AutoCAD and draw a vertical line 700.000 long.
Then draw a horizontal line 1.492.000.000 long.
Then draw a line that joins the two points.
Angular dimension: 0,026 degrees
Thank you for the attention. |
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:32:56 [Permalink]
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This reminds me, bigballs, you never have answered the question:
"Are there or are there not man-made satellites in Earth orbit?"
Well, how about it? |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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Einstein-2
SockPuppet
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:46:15 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck
This reminds me, bigballs, you never have answered the question:
"Are there or are there not man-made satellites in Earth orbit?"
Well, how about it?
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
 Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:46:29 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Einstein-2
Then that image is an artist work.
This is another artist work:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/image-details.cfm?imageID=613
Why did Huygens never take a REAL photo of Cassini?
Look at this REAL image:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/saturn/images/PIA08362-th120.jpg
SHADOW LINES:
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/saturno2.jpg
THIS IS A REAL IMAGE, BUT THE SHADOW LINES ARE STILL WRONG.
THEY SHOULD BE PARALLEL BECAUSE OF THE ENORMOUS DISTANCE OF THE SUN, BUT THE NASA BUFFOON ARTIST HAS MADE A WRONG IMAGE.
HA, HA, HA
"This is a real image, but the shadow lines are still wrong."
That line was worth repeating.
All you've done is succeeded in showing us, once again, your lack of grasping simple concepts/imagination.
Bigbrain, with the NASA Saturn image above, you are looking at a sphere (Saturn) with its shadowline projected on a equatorial plane(Saturn's rings). Jeez. Guess you missed out on high school trig, too?
Added....try this at home. Hold a basketball halfway below the edge of your dinner table. Shine a bright flashlight at the basketball from down the hallway. Note the shadow of the ball on the tabletop. Now, do you see the error in your ways?
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:49:09 [Permalink]
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THIS IS A REAL IMAGE, BUT THE SHADOW LINES ARE STILL WRONG.
Why would the shadow on the sphere follow the same lines as the shadow on the flat rings? |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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Einstein-2
SockPuppet
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 13:58:55 [Permalink]
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Bigbrain, with the NASA Saturn image above, you are looking at a sphere (Saturn) with its shadowline projected on a equatorial plane(Saturn's rings). Jeez. Guess you missed out on high school trig, too?
Go to school and study again, you don't understand anything about perspective.
Look at the light of the sphere of Saturn.
Where is the sun? Almost perpendicular to Saturn rings.
SHADOW IS WRONG, REALLY INCREDIBLY WRONG.
Study, little guy, study again.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
1383 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:22:49 [Permalink]
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Do you really have to ban him. He is SO funny. I mean, take this quote:
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THEY SHOULD BE PARALLEL BECAUSE OF THE ENORMOUS DISTANCE OF THE SUN...
Almost made me fall out of my chair, that one.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 03/18/2007 : 14:38:33 [Permalink]
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| There's funny, and then there's really, really annoying. It's quite obvious that not everyone who says things as ridiculous as bigbrain has been banned. We have all sorts of "entertainment" without needing to let those who flagrantly violate our forum rules stick around. |
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Why not question something for a change?
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