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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  19:30:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

This is convoluted reasoning, very much in character.
It's the economics of the elite, Jerome, which is why you're dismissing it. You know I'm right, but to admit it is to show that you're one of the businessmen you were railing against.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  19:40:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

This is convoluted reasoning, very much in character.
It's the economics of the elite, Jerome, which is why you're dismissing it. You know I'm right, but to admit it is to show that you're one of the businessmen you were railing against.



Understanding the economics of the elite does not denote that one takes part. Does the Ford dealer only sell the best model Ford?




What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  19:55:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Understanding the economics of the elite does not denote that one takes part. Does the Ford dealer only sell the best model Ford?
The Ford dealer isn't coming into these forums concerned that the government's actions might run contrary to the consumer's interests.

Had you not made such a statement, you wouldn't right now be held to a higher standard than other retailers, who often don't care whether the consumer is getting the best bang for their buck. You,Jerome, expressed such a concern, but it turns out that your profit margin is more important to you than protecting the consumers' wallets after all.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  20:09:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Understanding the economics of the elite does not denote that one takes part. Does the Ford dealer only sell the best model Ford?
The Ford dealer isn't coming into these forums concerned that the government's actions might run contrary to the consumer's interests.

Had you not made such a statement, you wouldn't right now be held to a higher standard than other retailers, who often don't care whether the consumer is getting the best bang for their buck. You,Jerome, expressed such a concern, but it turns out that your profit margin is more important to you than protecting the consumers' wallets after all.



Ahh, but no. It is better for them to buy the "organic" product from anyone instead of the majority of choices which are vastly inferior. It is better to develop a relationship with the consumer so as to educate them on their choices rather than leaving them to the wolves. If I were to turn them away initially they would lose their opportunity to be educated on their choice. I am unique in business in that I choose to care for the needs of the consumer first and the profits are only a byproduct. Have you not learned from me through our talks that I care little for results, I only enjoy the experience.




What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Ricky
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  20:56:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am unique in business in that I choose to care for the needs of the consumer first and the profits are only a byproduct.


Right. And the US went into Iraq just because Saddam was a bad guy.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  21:08:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky

I am unique in business in that I choose to care for the needs of the consumer first and the profits are only a byproduct.


Right. And the US went into Iraq just because Saddam was a bad guy.



No, the US went to Iraq as part of a three step strategy to bring the middle east into compliance with the rest of the world. Ultimately the goal is a worldwide central bank, military, court system, and bureaucracy.




What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/29/2007 :  22:48:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Ahh, but no. It is better for them to buy the "organic" product from anyone instead of the majority of choices which are vastly inferior.
Then why do you sell the organics?
It is better to develop a relationship with the consumer so as to educate them on their choices rather than leaving them to the wolves.
Which assumes that your customers are mindless proles, indicating that you are one of the elite, which was my hypothesis from the start. Besides, you're suggesting that it isn't possible to "develop a relationship with the consumer so as to educate them on their choices" without offering to sell them slightly inferior product, a premise that lacks substaniation.
If I were to turn them away initially they would lose their opportunity to be educated on their choice.
Which arrogantly assumes that you're the only good guy in the world.
I am unique in business in that I choose to care for the needs of the consumer first and the profits are only a byproduct.
Then you should be selling the organics and other less-than-optimal products at cost. Actually, you should be pricing so that your net is zero unless you happen to attract more clientelle than your average. That would truly demonstrate that profits are secondary.
Have you not learned from me through our talks that I care little for results, I only enjoy the experience.
Yes, I've learned that you most definitely enjoy the experience of annoying lots of people here.

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