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WILL YOU SHUT THE FASCISM UP!
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I will certainly not shut up, particularly for the likes of you. You need to see a medical professional, before you become a danger to yourself and society....
Are we nuts just because fascists can't address the simple questions?
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Your craziness is independent of anything happening in the real world.
That craziness can be see vividly in your calling everyone here a "fascist." That's no better connected to reality than the screams of "socialist!" being shouted out at town hall meetings to defeat universal medical insurance these days by the Radical Right.
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tmac1238.....
Very recent quotes from Half Moon:
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| Your craziness is independent of anything happening in the real world. |
See what I mean, tmac?
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Originally posted by tmac1238
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
tmac1238, I resent your unfounded allegations.
Also, insulting the intellects that frequent this board is not working if you want to impress me, or win me over to your "truth". You just make yourself look foolish (and I'm being kind).
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No there aren't. Just head over to Free Republic, or Rapture Ready... You'll have to dig deep into the archives before finding someone who could pass for "intellectual and intelligent".
That's why America and the world is in the mess that it's in because they are not hosting discussion. Every moment, if there is someone intelligent and truthful is an accusation of being a "conspiracy theorist" and some mental diagnosis without charge coming. |
That is simply not true from where I'm standing. There are many intelligent and truthful people on this board, and none of them have been accused of being "conspiracy theorist" etc.
| I do look foolish to you guys. I didn't fear no-fly-zones. I don't call everyone who disagrees with me "conspiracy theorists" so I can struggle to change the Second Amendment. Remember, that amendment was not made with middle-eastern Muslim extremists in mind. It was made by people who knew it was very much possible for the federal government to become treasonous, tyrannical and dangerous. You tell me how such a condition could happen with politicians from all different walks of life and persuasions contributing to a diverse governmental gene-pool? How would they dream something like that can happen? |
You're not making sense. Please compose yourself, and restate your mind.
| If you start with the "conspiracy theorist" nonsense, then I know you're not here to discuss anything. |
"Conspiracy theorist" is not a default label. It's a label you get when you subscribe to conspiracy theories which are way out in la-la land.
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I can't think of any at the moment. But... believing in something doesn't make it true. As scientific-minded skeptics who are champions of logic, we are morally obligated to believe in things that are real. If there isn't a global conspiracy like Illuminati, then it is our duty not to believe in it.
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
Originally posted by tmac1238
Are we nuts just because fascists can't address the simple questions?
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No, you're nuts because you babble incoherently.
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And all other fascists prove those who disagree with them are nuts by merely babbling incoherently.
PROVE YOUR DAMN LIES SOME OTHER WAY!
It's because you fascist nuts are resident aliens of every forum why even wars against no-fly-zones can take place. The world needs people who babble incoherently in the eyes of fascists.
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Originally posted by filthy
Originally posted by tmac1238
Originally posted by HalfMooner
The most hilarious thing, tmac1238, you pathetic and loathsome nutter, is that 9/11 was indeed a conspiracy on a scale of conspiracy never before seen. And it's exactly you conspiracy nuts who would like to let the perpetrators off the hook by assigning the wrong sort of blame to people who had nothing directly to do (aside from incompetent inaction before, and deadly opportunistic exploitation afterward) with the destruction of the WTC or the Pentagon.
You conspiracy crazies are the true "sheep" who will believe any fantasy that is weird enough to suit your insanity. And insanity it is, especially in your case. As with Scientologists, one can always expect the mention of psychiatrists when a certifiable madman is speaking, and you have not disappointed in that regard, either.
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WILL YOU SHUT THE FASCISM UP! Everybody is not crazy just because your numbers have grown greatly and directly proportional to all the insanities and tragedies taking place. You wanna join the military to defend our FREEDOMS? Freedoms to be nuts because fascists still don't like humans? Is Bush sending our troops to die to defend the rights of that torturous group called "conspiracy theorists" to have their free beliefs? If you're a "conspiracy theorists" are you an outlaw? Are they trying to make laws against having common sense? We can have our freedoms but can't believe your conspiracy exists? Are we nuts just because fascists can't address the simple questions?
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If I might interject, Halfmooner is a military veteran, as am I and others here. At least one of us is still active.
But I must admit, I really don't know what you're talking about. If you're saying that Bush planned 9-11 in coordination with bin Laden, then bring forth some evidence in support of it. If you are stating that Saddam Hussain still had WMDs (supplied years back by Reagan/Bush and busom-buddy Rumsfeld) at 9-11, in the face of UN and our own inspectors' reports, then produce evidence in support of that as well. You can't just come in here, wave your hands and make unsupported statements; not and be taken seriously. "Where's the beef?"
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Why didn't we need evidence to make wars against no-fly-zones? Why is evidence necessary only when true Americans are attacking the fascism that is destroying us?
Why should I listen even to UN inspector reports when the "experts" even made an "independent" investigation of the 911 disaster some 14 months after? Can you guys see that it's your constant mental diagnoses of true Americans why such farts pass you by?? |
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Posted - 08/15/2009 : 22:33:11 [Permalink]
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tmac, calm down a bit and get your priorities sorted out. What are you trying to say in this Skeptics forum? |
You have me at a terrible disadvantage, for no race of humans ever were able to tell fascists that it is they that need calming down. How can I help thee?
You have said that Skeptics are "conspirators"
Almost to a man, these Skeptics condemn conspiratory theory as nonsense.
You frequently allude to Bush, et al.
Bush and his gang are no longer running the country. Come into the present tense tmac! We all despise Bush/Cheney but they are no longer relevant! |
Bush is still running the country because the Dem congress went in to stop him and then changed their minds. Did you ask them why they never mentioned during their entire 2006 campaign that "impeachment is off the table?" Is it because it is so torturous for you and the others to realize that your conspiracy really exists? Why didn't you think that was strange? Then president Obama comes and has not moved a hand or a mouth at reversing the Patriot Act. Didn't you even see the youtube videos where he said he supported the New World Order? He supports it after he told us about it? Well Bush principle is the security principle for the New World Order. That's why President Obama is shuffling his feet also.
You are really concerned about "no-fly zones"
What are you talking about? What "no-fly zones"? Saddam Hussein's? He's dead, Jim! |
NO-fly-zones, are the things that really scared ya. You spent so much time rolling on the floor because we were afraid of black helicopters, and mentally diagnosed us so much, you couldn't stand the threat of no-fly-zones.
| tmac, you are really hard to understand. Give us a question, a hypothosis, a position, or something we can understand as your intended message to us, and respond to. Please! |
You guys are not swarming here because I'm hard to understand. Kindly leave and don't waste your time with what you persistently call mentally ill folks. Your entire race all over every forum just reads the same script formulated through fear of no-fly-zones. Leave my threads alone and humans will understand it. Do I look like a no-fly-zone to you? Mind your business. Don't get scared.
| Otherwise, you are going to be seen as merely babbling incoherently! |
You forgot the mental diagnoses. You fascists are losing it. You say the same words as if reciting the pledge of allegiance to the Antichrist. Can't you use some other tactic? WHAT WOULD HAVE NOT HAPPENED IF YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW HUMANS BABBLE INCOHERENTLY ALL THE TIME? Would even Osama be alive today while our troops are made martyrs if humans didn't incoherently babble?
No one here understands what you are trying to say!
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by tmac1238
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I will certainly not shut up, particularly for the likes of you. You need to see a medical professional, before you become a danger to yourself and society.
I'd rather wait till you die in wars against on-fly-zones to make me maintain my freedoms and my right to disagree with psychiatrist fascists?
Just tell us why you didn't remain with your escaped father in Argentina.
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Your craziness is independent of anything happening in the real world.
tmac: Independent of the real dangers of no-fly-zones and why anyone afraid of such zones have never been mentally diagnosed yet? Why were you afraid of them? If you weren't, why didn't you know those that were afraid of them needed professional mental help?
no-fly-zones hunter: That craziness can be see vividly in your calling everyone here a "fascist." |
tmac: If you enter discussions and prove your fascists lies by babbling how no one can understand your opponents posts as the very reason then why you can't ignore them--and if your discussion is constantly ranting how anyone who would rather fear black helicopters than no-fly-zones needs mental professionals, then you're a fascist.
Everyone who does those things are fascists. It is not my fault for your upbringing. I appeal to all fascists to merely enter into discussion, but it's difficult to do that if a mother from fascism trips over a no-fly-zones when she's pregnant with future internet propagandists in the bread-basket.
nut-chaser: That's no better connected to reality than the screams of "socialist!" being shouted out at town hall meetings to defeat universal medical insurance these days by the Radical Right.
tmac: But why would a bunch of socialists and fascists always know their opponents posts are incoherent and they need mental evaluation without admitting they are jealous because humans don't fear no-fly-zones? |
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Rhetorical question: Are you really so crazy that you think that everyone here is a war-loving fascist? Quite a few people here questioned W's claims justifying the Iraq war from the get-go. Others of us (like myself, unfortunately) were fooled at first, but eventually got wise to Bush's Iraq scam. So we're all "fascists" because we see no evidence that 9/11 was an inside-job conspiracy? (You've certainly provided none. You just scream, "fascist!" like a street crazy.)
Seriously, by ignoring everything anyone says to you, you are merely demonstrating your divorce from reality. (I hope it's just a trial separation.) By lumping everyone here together as hated, George Bush-loving fascists, you show off your paranoia rather than any facts in support of your views.
It's painful to see yet another paranoid losing it. I've had a number of friends and one wife who've gone through severe mental illness, and it was hard for me to remain a friend with someone who thought I was a monster who was plotting against them. On the other hand, paranoids do have real enemies, and they often create them with their psychotic accusations. I don't consider you an enemy, but I'd certainly stay far away from you and would warn others about you as well.
I hope you get some help. I'm sure you've been in and out of psychiatric care. It's time to visit a clinic again. If, once your emotional problems are under control, perhaps then we can actually discuss (you know, a two-way conversation?) your beliefs. On the other hand, your delusions just might evaporate with proper medication.
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by tmac1238
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
tmac1238, I resent your unfounded allegations.
Also, insulting the intellects that frequent this board is not working if you want to impress me, or win me over to your "truth". You just make yourself look foolish (and I'm being kind).
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There are "intellects" all over every board. |
No there aren't. Just head over to Free Republic, or Rapture Ready... You'll have to dig deep into the archives before finding someone who could pass for "intellectual and intelligent".
tmac: YES THERE ARE! You have to calm down when you see no-fly-zones to understand this! You have to have a terrible desire to even sacrifice and purchase paranoia medicine for anyone else whose knees might knock at the sight of those zones.
That's why America and the world is in the mess that it's in because they are not hosting discussion. Every moment, if there is someone intelligent and truthful is an accusation of being a "conspiracy theorist" and some mental diagnosis without charge coming. |
That is simply not true from where I'm standing. There are many intelligent and truthful people on this board, and none of them have been accused of being "conspiracy theorist" etc.
tmac1238: Did those fine "truthful" people fear no-fly-zones? Did they see the terrible need for mental evaluation at the sight of those who feared no-fly-zones?
YOU NEED TO STOP CALLING THE HUMAN RACE "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS" AND JUST JOIN IT! If you don't turn from fascism, you're going to want to send the children of other people in false wars to defend the FREEDOM to be a "conspiracy theorist."
| I do look foolish to you guys. I didn't fear no-fly-zones. I don't call everyone who disagrees with me "conspiracy theorists" so I can struggle to change the Second Amendment. Remember, that amendment was not made with middle-eastern Muslim extremists in mind. It was made by people who knew it was very much possible for the federal government to become treasonous, tyrannical and dangerous. You tell me how such a condition could happen with politicians from all different walks of life and persuasions contributing to a diverse governmental gene-pool? How would they dream something like that can happen? |
You're not making sense. Please compose yourself, and restate your mind.
tmac1238: PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN...
The human race will never make sense to you antichrist nutballs if you first don't stop fearing no-fly-zones. First promise me you don't fear such things nor will you pass over the humanitarian effort to mentally diagnose anyone or anything that does before you attempt to understand the American human race.
Remember, no American has ever converted a single fascist, so it is unlikely that this advice will change that antichrist broken record. The best thing for you to do is to enlist in the front lines of Iraq so you can die for my right to disagree with fascists.
| If you start with the "conspiracy theorist" nonsense, then I know you're not here to discuss anything. |
"Conspiracy theorist" is not a default label. It's a label you get when you subscribe to conspiracy theories which are way out in la-la land.
tmac1238: But a FASCIST la-la-land is different from a human one. That's why you la-la-land psychiatrists supported wars against no-fly-zones and then contracted gonad cancer cause you couldn't stand us being afraid of black helicopters. What is la-la-land to you is not to Americans.
There were also bold death threats against all non-Catholics shown to you in links. How are people who agree with such threats going to notice them when they are in terrorist target mode?
| In which free country is it a crime to believe there is a global conspiracy taking place. |
I can't think of any at the moment. But... believing in something doesn't make it true. |
tmac1238: Why then do you babble that those who disagree with you are "conspiracy theorists" and need mental evaluation while you are away at war to defend their freedoms? Why then did you fascist propagandists believe that it is right to mentally diagnose true Americans cause they feared black helicopters and you failed to do it to those who instead feared no-fly-zones? Why can't you notice bold death threats against all who are not Catholic?
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapI.htm
You act as if such threats are an everyday circumstance in the regime of history you came from! This doesn't prove that you're Japanese.
As scientific-minded skeptics who are champions of logic, we are morally obligated to believe in things that are real. If there isn't a global conspiracy like Illuminati, then it is our duty not to believe in it.
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Why were no-fly-zones VERY REAL?? As skeptics, YOU ARE ALSO SUPPOSED TO PROVE AND DOCUMENT THAT ALL WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU AND ARE NOT FASCISTS need mental evaluation. |
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Rhetorical question: Are you really so crazy that you think that everyone here is a war-loving fascist? |
Are you crazy enough to believe you should die to defend FREEDOM instead of living on internet forums to tell those who disagree with you that they have mental problems? I think you should provide much more evidence for your mental diagnoses of those who disagree with you than what was shown you about the danger of no-fly-zones.
| Quite a few people here questioned W's claims justifying the Iraq war from the get-go. Others of us (like myself, unfortunately) were fooled at first, but eventually got wise to Bush's Iraq scam. So we're all "fascists" because we see no evidence that 9/11 was an inside-job conspiracy? (You've certainly provided none. You just scream, "fascist!" like a street crazy.) |
Here are bold threats of death against all who are not Catholic. They are very revealing, even to the point where they were asked how they can make such threats after The Patriot Act was created and Homeland Security was appointed. No fascist can notice those threats:
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapI.htm
| Seriously, by ignoring everything anyone says to you, you are merely demonstrating your divorce from reality. |
Seriously, every fascist thought that by ranting lies, they can really make true Americans and all their opponents "nuts" and divorced from reality. I suppose you even hope that can make death threats against all who are not Catholic you support, go away! No serial killer, NOR ALL OF THEM IN THE 20TH CENTURY COMBINED, ever made threats like that. THE THREATS ARE BOLD, OPEN AND PUBLIC!
| (I hope it's just a trial separation.) By lumping everyone here together as hated, George Bush-loving fascists, you show off your paranoia rather than any facts in support of your views. |
The website also notes that Bush was most helped by people who regularly condemned him. If you enter forums and prove your lies by constantly ranting how members of the human race are mentally ill or "conspiracy theorists," then you're a fascist. Remember EVEN THAT PHRASE DID NOT EXIST FOR MOST OF MY LIFE! How could you have survived 2 or 3 decades ago when your pet phrase for your existence did not exist? At a time when you then couldn't die to defend everyone else's freedom to believe your conspiracy exists?
| It's painful to see yet another paranoid losing it. |
You mean losing sight of the no-fly-zones? Good thing we didn't lose them, huh? It's painful to a fascist? Didn't look like our attack against no-fly-zones hurt you guys any! You seem overjoyed!
| I've had a number of friends and one wife who've gone through severe mental illness, and it was hard for me to remain a friend with someone who thought I was a monster who was plotting against them. On the other hand, paranoids do have real enemies, and they often create them with their psychotic accusations. |
What are you talking about? Stop being so incoherent? You talking about psychotic accusations against no-fly-zones of being very fierce? You talking about the time at WACO, TX when the government brought tanks and humvees to fight against the women and children of the Branch Davidian compound? They kept using the paranoid word like you afterward, you know? You talking about the time resident fascist psychiatrists use all over the internet as thought-police against people they already mentally diagnose as crazy and who post things NO ONE can understand? How do foreign language posters survive?
| I don't consider you an enemy, but I'd certainly stay far away from you and would warn others about you as well. |
I feel so sad! Propagandists who all the time used the same words but never fulfilled it are repeating again! You on the battlefield? How does it make you feel to know that you're also fighting for the "conspiracy theorists?"
| I hope you get some help. I'm sure you've been in and out of psychiatric care. |
If I'm cured, will you know when I tell you I fear no-fly-zones so you can then go on forums and attack others instead?
But in your case, I don't know of a single psychiatrist that even has a program to cure fascism. I wish I can help you! After all, you will drink every drop of blood that is not shed by those who merely disagree with you.
| It's time to visit a clinic again. |
You saying there's hope for crazy people who disagree with you? I wish I can tell you there are mental clinics to cure your fascism! You're out of luck and salvation.
| If, once your emotional problems are under control, perhaps then we can actually discuss (you know, a two-way conversation?) your beliefs. |
You guys already built and supported concentration camps for that. You weren't successful with our GIs in your camps? Didn't you get them to fear no-fly-zones or to attack others who don't?
On the other hand, your delusions just might evaporate with proper medication.
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...Kindly leave and don't waste your time with what you persistently call mentally ill folks. Your entire race all over every forum just reads the same script formulated through fear of no-fly-zones. Leave my threads alone and humans will understand it... |
These aren't "your" threads. The Skeptic Friends Network is not your soapbox, and asking others to leave is not your right. If you don't like what other people are saying here, you know that not replying to them is the easiest solution to your problem. You are in no position to make either demands or requests, especially not of other SFN members or staff. |
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by tmac1238
...Kindly leave and don't waste your time with what you persistently call mentally ill folks. Your entire race all over every forum just reads the same script formulated through fear of no-fly-zones. Leave my threads alone and humans will understand it... |
These aren't "your" threads. The Skeptic Friends Network is not your soapbox, and asking others to leave is not your right. If you don't like what other people are saying here, you know that not replying to them is the easiest solution to your problem. You are in no position to make either demands or requests, especially not of other SFN members or staff.
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Sorry if I offended you, but forums and experience with no-fly-zones would work better if evidence was presented instead of constant babbling about the mental inability of opponents. That was a constant fascist habit and history. This practice was not found very much in earlier days. It stands for reason, because in earlier days any consideration for detention or concentration camps by America was not considered either, and when some were created during WWII, America had to apologize for it.
If you prefer a forum where arguments are proven by some fascist talking about how mental illness is always a terrible problem inherent with everyone who disagrees with him makes him, and how it makes him very sad, then so be it. The more mature they claim they are is the more evidence to prove this would not frighten them. Typically upon hearing this call for evidence, they would repeat how obvious it is that all their opponents have mental problems. Then you shouldn't worry when I show evidence of how obvious it is they are fascists in American clothing.
Like it or not, mentally diagnosing humans was also a common fascist fetish. It is very much because there are so many people around us telling us how intelligent they are why so many insane things have happened in American society and in that of the whole world. |
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tmac1238, obviously you are very angry at the former Bush administration and the government. But what is it you want us to do, exactly?
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Why didn't we need evidence to make wars against no-fly-zones? Why is evidence necessary only when true Americans are attacking the fascism that is destroying us?
Why should I listen even to UN inspector reports when the "experts" even made an "independent" investigation of the 911 disaster some 14 months after? Can you guys see that it's your constant mental diagnoses of true Americans why such farts pass you by??
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Why indeed? But hey, define "true American." I ask because it seems like every time I hear someone claiming to be one, that person has a plan to screw someone, everyone, else in the name of patriotism. The previous administration is a prime example. If you want actual, current fascism, Tune in FOX Nooz, or Rush Limbaugh or any of his slathering, brain-dead clones. Or indeed, our current crop of scumteabaggers.
I still don't understand what you're on about. Are you now saying that the invasion of Iraq was justified because Saddam was involved in 9-11? If so, on what grounds?
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